I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about reality dating shows like The Bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.

We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us about love, sex, and dating.

I'm not drunk, bro, I'm not drunk, bro, I'm fire, can you keep up? I like love it.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast where we get to sometimes interview the literal bachelor big day for us, big day. That's right.

Burzaki himself is with us in the flesh and we're so excited to talk to him. Thank you so much for joining us. We're so excited.

Burzaki. I'm never going to live that one down.

You literally are not ever. It's a little cringy, not going to lie, but hey, it's part of it.

I know I were just thrilled to learn some fun facts about you, so thank you, Jesse Palmer.

Jesse, you really threw a man at the bus on that one several times he's done that.

I mean, who among us did not have an embarrassing DJ name at one point in our lives? That's just the right now.

What was yours if you come back?

I didn't have one and I don't want to throw my brother under the bus, but do it.

Do it. Do it. There were parentheses involved.

Oh, it's complex. Wow. Love you, Dan.

Okay, so let's dive in. First of all, we just wanted to say, we know this has been a tough journey into the Bachelor for you.

And being the lead on the show can come with just an onslaught of public commentary, including from podcasters like us on a level that no one really needs to receive.

So we're really impressed at how you've been able to take it on board and laugh at it.

And the boring Bachelor energy.

Yeah, absolutely. That was perfect. So we were wondering, like, is there anything that you wish would have been done differently on your season to kind of help everyone get to know you as your journey was starting or in the ramp up to the season beginning.

Yeah, good question. I think so with last season, I mean, all the, you know, the comments of like, who the hell is this guy? Like boring bachelor.

It makes sense. Like I saw where everyone was coming from because in the grand scheme of last episode or last season, it was like, you didn't see me like it.

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