All right, people, today we are going to do a long run episode of me and Zach Bitter.

If you're not familiar with the show, we have three formats, one, we have my me and my

dumb friends in the basement talking about running kind of, but not really, and joking

around, and it's kind of funny and fun.

We have Meet the Nation, which is where I have an interview with someone who listens

to this podcast, just like, you know, 10 kind of formatted questions to get to know each

other, and then there's the long run.

But this is, this is me and Zach Bitter talking about everything for a long time.

I have no idea what we talked about so long ago, kind of a backlog going on.

He's interesting.

He's from Wisconsin, you know, we've known of each other for a while.

We just have never connected, but we talk about, you know, his fat adaptation.

We talk about his life and running, his roots in Wisconsin, podcasting and his podcast

show, his goals, his, you know, stuff like that.

Really interesting.

I remember we had a very, very great conversation, and I felt really cool afterward, and I was

kind of inspired by it to try to get rid of some of the carbs and sugar from my life, which

I've been successfully doing for a couple of weeks now, and it's, it makes a big change.

I know I say this in the past when I, when I experiment with this, but I don't know why

I don't eat this way all the time because for me, just for me, and I'm not saying this

is the way anybody else should live their life.

And I get rid of sugar and carbohydrates, I feel like a million bucks, which brings

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