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Death, Sex & Money

Your Workplace Rage, And Mine

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Audio

Careers, Sexuality, Business, Health & Fitness, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.6 • 7.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2017

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Reconsidering what we put up with. Send us your 30-second voice memos about what you wish you could tell your younger self about dealing with harassment and bullying at work: deathsexmoney@wnyc.org. Stay in the loop and subscribe to our weekly email newsletter! Every Wednesday we'll send you our favorites from the audio world, fascinating letters from our inbox and updates from the show. Sign up at deathsexmoney.org/newsletter. Follow the show on Twitter @deathsexmoney and Facebook at facebook.com/deathsexmoney. Email us any time at deathsexmoney@wnyc.org. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's been a weird week here at Death Sex and Money.

0:04.0

Over the weekend, John Hawkenberry, the former host of another show here at WNYC called The Takeaway,

0:10.1

was accused of a pattern of sexual misconduct and bullying of his coworkers.

0:15.2

He allegedly forcibly kissed two women producers at his show.

0:19.6

This was brought to light by a writer named Suki Kim at New York magazine.

0:24.0

Suki also reported how, over John's nine years of the takeaway, three of his co-host,

0:30.0

all women of color, left due to his hostile behavior.

0:34.0

There's a link to Suki's story which includes a statement from John at deathsexmoney.org.

0:39.4

He did not deny the allegations and said, I have no excuses. John left the takeaway in August, but most of this was not public

0:47.5

until now. I worked at the takeaway for two years. It was my first job in New York City back in 2009. After I read this

0:56.1

story I reached out to a friend and former co-worker on the show, Noel King.

1:00.3

Hi there. I know well. Noel's now a correspondent for NPR's planet money but in this

1:08.4

conversation she's not talking on behalf of NPR. When we work, she and I both knew about John's bullying

1:15.4

behavior. A lot of people now are asking why we never said anything, why we

1:22.2

never reported it to our supervisors, and why I was allowed to go on

1:26.0

for so long.

1:27.0

And I've been asking myself the same question, I've been asking myself the same question for

1:31.8

two weeks now. I was there for three and a half years.

1:34.0

Why didn't I say anything?

1:36.0

Yeah, I mean I have been feeling so sad that I thought this was normal.

1:43.0

Well, we were told that it was normal.

1:46.0

I mean, that was the advice I was given from the day I started.

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