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The Next Level

Your Sportsballs are Infected (w/ Pablo S. Torre)

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Tim sits down with sportswriter and ESPN Daily host Pablo S. Torre to discuss how sports, the last unifying cultural touchstone in America, has started to be corrupted by polarization. They get into the cringy identity politics of both the left and the right when it comes to athletics, along with some NBA commentary and Denver Nuggets debate!

Plus, Tim breaks down his thoughts on SCOTUS ruling against Harvard’s and UNC’s affirmative action policies.

Watch Tim interview Pablo here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_x50CSNQRw

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the next level podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. I was so excited to sit down with Pablo Torrey for the Sunday show interview this week

0:15.9

he has been on ESPN on pardon the interruption around the horn and he's also joining

0:21.2

Dan Labatard's Meadowlark, which is a super cool sports and culture

0:26.2

podcasting and multimedia company and I think we talk a lot about how politics

0:31.6

has infected sports, how you can't get away from it. We get into the woke wars. I think even if you

0:37.3

you know aren't into the nitty gritty of sports ball I think you'll enjoy the conversation

0:41.8

and how it relates to what's happening in our culture.

0:44.0

But before we get to Pablo, I wanted to try something little new and just solo, just you and me,

0:50.3

share a couple of my reactions to the Supreme Court rulings.

0:54.0

I want to address some of the commentary from the right and left

0:56.7

that we've seen over the past 48, 72 hours

1:00.2

that I disagree with.

1:01.4

First, I want to discuss some of my friends on the right who are bristling

1:05.4

at President Biden's comment that this is not a quote normal court. Even some of the

1:11.2

anti-Trump conservatives got their backup about this.

1:14.6

And the best good faith critique that I saw comes from this Twitter user.

1:20.0

I follow A.G. Hamilton, not a trumper.

1:22.9

He says, Supreme Court rules against racial discrimination

1:25.8

and college admissions, a position supported

1:27.7

by an overwhelming majority of Americans.

1:30.1

Biden responds by questioning the normalcy of the court,

1:33.0

this is not a normal president.

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