Have you ever told someone, I'll pray for you?

Kim Butt says, making that promise isn't enough.

It's one thing to say I'm praying for you.

It's another thing to actually do it.

And one of the things we subscribe to is pray now.

Don't tell somebody you're going to pray because how many times do you forget?

And the surgery's over and you went, oh, I they and then later they're thank you for praying and you're like you know we've all been there so don't wait this is the revive our hearts podcast with nancy demas wogamooke for Tuesday, May 3rd, 2016.

I was very excited to learn that Kim and Dave Butts were in the area on this very day when we're recording for Revive Our Hearts, and they're on a sabbatical and not supposed to be doing what they're doing right now, so don't tell anybody. That'd be our little secret,

but they were with the director of our ministry, Byron, and Sue Paulus, and I texted Byron and said,

is there any way they could come over and talk with us about the subject of prayer, which we're

attempting to make a thrust throughout 2016.

Now, we want it to be a thrust every year, and this ministry has been birthed in prayer,

bathed in prayer, saturated in prayer. We would not, I would not be doing what I'm doing

if it weren't for an amazing group of praying, friends who are

praying for us today, have been praying for me over past weeks as I've been preparing.

And so we believe in prayer. We live by prayer. We're dependent on so many things for the Lord

that come by his hand through asking in prayer. But in 2016, we're especially

making a thrust and emphasis on the need for prayer and different aspects of prayer. And when I

think about that subject, Dave and Kim are on a short list of people that I know really have a

heart for this subject. Dave has been for a number of years,

the chairman of the National Prayer Committee, and is an author, a speaker, a, have you been a

pastor or are you a pastor? I was. I have been a pastor, but I'm in traveling now, so that church

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