So I just like pulled a book off the shelf right and I flipped through like until I found a little thing that I highlighted I have a green check mark next to this and this is the quote. It's on page 238 of Parable of the Sewer, and it's the paperback edition that has the reading group guide in the back, and it says the act of writing itself was a kind of therapy.

Yes!

Oh, that's a good one.

I'm Autumn Brown, a queer science fiction writer, a theologian, a mother of dragons, and a healing

justice facilitator for social movements living in rural Minnesota.

And I'm Adrian Marie Brown,

author of a merchant strategy,

co-editor of Octavia's brood, writer, facilitator of Black Liberation

More, Hante Extraordinary Dula. writer, facilitator of black liberation, more,

Auntie Extraordinar, Dula, and pleasure activist

living in Detroit.

And this is How to Survive the End of the World.

Our podcast about learning from apocalypse with grace. of the Octavia E Butler Legacy Network here

with us.

It's the Legacy Network.

Ianna Jameson and Moia Bailey, both of whom are beloved,

erse, first family, great teachers, and carriers of Octavia's work.

And we are going to look at the legacy of wisdom that Octavia left us for surviving apocalypse and how

that legacy lives on today. So by way of introduction into this show, Moia and Iana,

can you both tell us what made you fall in love with Octavia Estelle

Butler.

Go Moya. You could go.

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