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HerMoney with Jean Chatzky

Your Money Map Replay: The 4 Pillars of a Secure Retirement

HerMoney with Jean Chatzky

Jean Chatzky Her Money

Investing, Entrepreneurship, Business

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Is the fog of uncertainty clouding your vision of retirement? On the most recent episode of Your Money Map, our weekly show with the Alliance for Lifetime Income, Jean Chatzky sits down with Roger Whitney, a financial planner, podcast host, and founder of the Rock Retirement Club, to clear the air. Roger shares his game-changing “Four Pillars” framework for a confident retirement and explains how starting with your values — not just the number in your bank account — leads to a more fulfilling life. If you like this episode and want more, check out all of our Your Money Map episodes at protectedincome.org/your-money-map/ or tune in live every Wednesday at 12 PM ET on Facebook or LinkedIn. If more financial confidence sounds good to you, then you might want to try our… 4-Week Coaching Program: Identify and understand your spending, build a strategic plan, and take control of your money. 6-Week Pre-Retirement Program: We’ll help you prepare financially and emotionally for this exciting milestone. 📈InvestingFixx: Learn, connect, and start investing—your first month is completely free. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I categorically reject guardrails and withdrawal rates. That is a financial framing of how

0:11.6

retirement works that is devoid of how people really want to live.

0:17.9

Hey everyone, welcome to Hermione. I'm Gene Chatsky. If you have ever asked yourself,

0:22.9

am I going to be okay in retirement? And who hasn't? This episode is for you. Because today we are

0:30.8

cutting through the confusion, the fear, and yes, the fog that can roll in when you're staring

0:36.3

down an uncertain future. The one and only

0:39.7

Roger Whitney, who calls himself the retirement answer man, join me recently on Your Money Map,

0:46.7

which is a show I host for the Alliance for Lifetime Income. For more than 25 years,

0:51.2

he's been walking with clients on the path to and through retirement.

0:55.8

We're talking about the four pillars of a rock solid retirement, how to build resilience

1:02.8

into your plan on why the most common mistake retirees make is focusing on optimization before intention. It's practical, it's philosophical.

1:15.5

It might just change the way that you think about your next chapter. So stay tuned. And be sure

1:21.8

to check out the great work being done by the Alliance for Lifetime Income at protectedincome.org.

1:28.7

We're going to take a very quick break.

1:30.9

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1:33.9

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1:41.1

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1:42.1

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1:44.0

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1:46.9

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