Hello friends, welcome, welcome. I have got a fascinating conversation for you today.

It is about the brain, the human mind. I am chatting today with Mark Solms who is the director of neuropsychology at the University of Cape Town in South Africa and he also is a lecturer at the Royal London Hospital School of Medicine and he has done

extensive and I mean extensive to the tune of hundreds of academic papers and eight books. Extensive.

Extensive research into the human brain, the human mind, what makes us conscious?

Oh my gosh, I also made sure to ask him,

because I know y'all are interested,

about the topic where some people talk to themselves and some people

don't you guys are fascinated by that so we are going to get into all of that and so

much more let's dive into my conversation with Mark Solms. I'm Sharon McMahon and welcome to the Sharon Says So podcast.

Hello, thank you so much for joining me. Tell everybody what you do, where you're from, what you study. Well, I'm a professor in neuropsychology, which is the interface between brain and mind.

I have two positions.

The one is at the University of Cape Town in South Africa,

where I'm director of neuropsychology and the neuroscience institute.

And I'm a lecturer in the

the neurosurgery at the Royal London Hospital in London, which is where I am now. Mmm.

I always love to meet people who know a lot of things that I don't know.

It's always very exciting.

What is the difference between the brain and the mind?

Well, the way I think about it is that the brain is what you see with your eyes,

when you look at the mind from the outside as an object.

The mind is what you experience in your feelings when you are the brain from the inside.

So it's the same thing, it just depends on whether you're

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