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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Your July 4th emotional life

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

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4.4678 Ratings

🗓️ 6 July 2026

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Now that the 250th birthday party is over, what are your feelings about country?

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0:00.0

from WNYC studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Monday, July 6th.

0:14.6

Well, the country's 250th birthday party is over. How are you actually feeling? How are you actually feeling? As you thought about

0:23.6

the United States of America on Saturday while you were whatever, barbecuing or at the beach or

0:29.3

watching fireworks or whatever you were doing. We hope to have very constructive dialogues here

0:34.1

in a series we'll call America 251 because, you know, for all the competing views of

0:39.7

history and the present as the big round number anniversary was approaching, Saturday was not the

0:45.0

end of history, right? And our complicated times in this country continue. So let's start year

0:51.2

251. By playing some clips of President Donald Trump and Mayor Zeran Mamdani's July 3rd speeches,

0:59.1

also a clip from Princeton Professor Eddie Glawd and an Andrew Cuomo clip from when he was governor that might very much surprise you.

1:07.7

So here we go.

1:08.4

I'm going to start with the Eddie Glawd clip in which he does not

1:12.4

sugarcoat his feelings. This is from June 15th on PBS as the Princeton historian and professor

1:20.3

was discussing his new book, America, USA, How Race Shadows the Nation's Anniversaries. Obviously,

1:27.3

that was published in the context of

1:29.5

the big anniversary now. The context here further is that he opens the book, first words in the book,

1:36.9

opens the book with the words, I do not love America and never have. I do not love America and never have. And he explains why he

1:47.1

started that way. I wanted to differentiate myself from James Baldwin. I'm starting from a different

1:52.9

place. Baldwin begins with his love of country and says from there I can criticize the country

1:58.1

perpetually. I want to begin with wound.

2:06.1

So I'm really asking the question, how can you expect me to love the country,

2:11.8

given the reality of my experience and the experience of race in the country?

2:15.2

I do not love America and never have.

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