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Your Favorite Pro-Life Organizations Keeping Abortion Legal! | Ben Zeisloft

The Seth Gruber Show

Seth Gruber

News:news Commentary, News, Politics, News Commentary

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode, Seth sits down with Ben Zeisloft—author of Forsaken of the Fatherless—to have the conversation the pro-life establishment doesn’t want you to hear. Together, they expose the uncomfortable truth: in states like Texas and Oklahoma, abortion is still not criminalized, even with Republican supermajorities. Mothers can still legally kill their babies, and the so-called “pro-life” movement has worked against bills that would have fully protected the unborn. This episode rips the mask off the pro-life industry, revealing how corruption, compromise, and cowardice have left millions of babies unprotected. If you’ve thought being “pro-life” was enough, think again. To truly stand for the voiceless means demanding justice and criminalization. Get ready for an unflinching, controversial deep dive—and don’t forget to grab Ben’s powerful new book Forsaken of the Fatherless.   Stand with us at Life or Death Con in Washington D.C. on January 22, 2026 — the frontline of Christian resistance! Special guests Steve Deace, Megan Basham, Abby Johnson, and Dr. George Grant. | Use code “Seth” for 20% off. https://lifeordeathcon.com/ FOLLOW Seth’s Rumble channel in case he gets kicked off YouTube: https://rumble.com/c/sethgruber  HOST A SCREENING of Seth's documentary "The 1916 Project". This film exposes the hidden history of the secular moral revolution, and the architects of our current culture of death. Sign up your church to join the hundreds of churches screening this powerful film! https://the1916project.com/ Tune in to The Seth Gruber Show every Tuesday and Thursday. Understand not only the things happening in our culture but also how they became realized. Now streaming on all podcast platforms! Shop EveryLife, the ONLY diaper company rooted in pro-life values! Use code “Seth10” to get 10% off. https://everylife.com/discount/SETH10 To help Seth educate and expose culture to the evil of abortion so that every person has a right to be born, become an ALLY of The White Rose Resistance at https://thewhiterose.life

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0:00.0

The whole pro-life argument is there's no value-giving difference between baby in the womb and baby outside the womb that justifies killing them in the womb. Whether it's the mother who takes the abortion pills, whether it's the father who helps the mother get the abortion pills or the abortionist who gets paid to do it. We're just saying charge all of them with murder. So many pro-life organizations, they're not even playing hardball. Texas Lions for Life is one of the biggest pro-life groups in Texas. They have pro-life grandmas who are sending in their, a piece of their

0:24.5

fixed income, thinking that this group is going to help save babies in Texas. And really, they're

0:28.4

doing the exact opposite. Here's the bottom line, guys.

0:46.9

If you are pro-life, you must advocate for criminalizing abortion.

0:53.1

It's that simple.

0:53.9

Ben Zeisloft, author of Fers

0:56.0

of the Fatherless, new book, joins me today to discuss what it means to be truly pro-life

1:01.3

and anti-abortion. We expose that even in red states with like Republican supermajorities,

1:10.1

okay, like Texas and Oklahoma, abortion is not criminalized.

1:14.4

It's still legal for mothers to kill their babies.

1:16.6

Did you know that many of your favorite pro-life organizations?

1:20.7

I know.

1:21.1

This is where it's painful to learn, guys.

1:22.8

We got to wake up.

1:24.3

Pro-life organizations don't advocate for actually completely, legally protecting unborn

1:31.7

babies. Did you know that the pro-life establishment has even fought against, tried to stop

1:38.9

bills from passing that would have saved babies, that would have fully protected unborn babies?

1:44.6

It's a conversation that we've had before, but we're diving a little deeper because Ben

1:50.2

has written an excellent book that I want you to pick up.

1:52.9

Get ready to learn about corruption at its finest for Sakers of the Fatherless, pick up Ben's

1:58.9

book.

1:59.7

Give us a rating interview.

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