And so I think those people, again, some in good faith, some in bad are sniffing out

that confident lie.

And the best thing that we can do to build trust is to name it ourselves and to say, you're

right.

There is complexity here.

And it is really hard when we're talking about the public health and in a community as

big endeavors as ours.

And to just name that, not to say you're right, like I agree with you, but to say, I understand

why you feel that way.

I can see that too.

This is Sarah and Beth.

We're listening to Pant suit Politics, the home of Graceville Political Conversations.

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Pant suit Politics.

We hope you had the best Labor Day weekend available to you.

On today's episode, we're going to start the show by talking about what happens next

to the more than 123,000 refugees airlifted out of Afghanistan over the past few weeks.

In the main segment, we're going to talk about mask mandates and abortion and the conversation

about hypocrisy that so many of us are having in our private lives.

And then as always, we're in the show by talking about what's on our mind outside politics.

Before we get started, Beth, you've watched a new little series in our Instagram Reels,

tell the people about it.

In the latest installment of Sarah pushes me outside my comfort zone, I am also made

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