This is an I-Heart podcast.

And you mentioned point guards.

Another piece I thought was super interesting was your last piece on Jose Alvarado.

And I was reading it,

and there's a bunch of different guards in the mix

that you interviewed and that were referenced.

And I guess the first question that I have is,

do you think that his success,

because I think it came out of nowhere,

and, you know, he was ACC,

defensive player, but still undrafted. Do you think that this success that he's had, success that guards like Fred Van Fleet have had,

does that pave the way?

Is this like a trend, do you think that's happening where undersized players

can come in and be really valuable role players? I hope so because I love those kinds of players.

But I think the trend is not to me about undersized players exactly because I think it's getting

harder and harder for smaller guards to stay in the league.

But I think if you are one of those guys that plays taller, if you're one of those guys that can switch a little bit, then compete against bigger players, it can hold their own, then yeah, it's just like the bar is getting higher.

And I think probably one of the reasons why he went undrafted his people just looked at him as a small guard. And now that he's in the NBA, it's like, well, he plays as if he has no idea that he's a small guard. He plays as if he thinks he's six, nine. And that's exactly how Van Bleep plays. That's how, you know, like, that's how Alex Crusoe is one of the guys that was quoted in the story that I think that's who Alvarado had told him, like, you paved the way for me.

Like I saw what you did to go from a two way to like being a rotation player in the league and all of that.

I think Fred Van Ville didn't tell me exactly

what Alvarado told him when they spoke, but it sounded like a kind of similar deal. Like, I think

Alvarado saw in those guys a kind of path for himself. And I think there's a reason. It's like

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