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Doctrine and Devotion

Young Pastors

Doctrine and Devotion

Joe Thorn & Jimmy Fowler

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2022

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Joe and Jimmy respond to an email from a young minister navigating the trappings of his first position at a church. How does he avoid finding his identity in the wrong parts of ministry? How does he build trust with people 20 years his senior, make necessary changes, and not be the know-it-all seminarian?

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0:00.0

Welcome to Doctrine and Devotion. It's a podcast. It explores Christian faith and practice

0:19.1

usually from a reformed Baptist perspective unless it's just a perspective that we have

0:24.5

and by we I mean me and Jimmy. My name is Joe. I'm the lead pastor of a Dürer Fellowship

0:28.8

in St. Charles, Illinois. And I'm Jim Fowler, executive pastor at Redeemer Fellowship.

0:32.8

You know, you're only the executive pastor when you show up.

0:35.8

Okay. It'd be like you're only lead pastor when you're here. Yeah, but I'm always here.

0:43.8

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good Friday service. I was there. Good job. Mm-hmm.

0:50.1

Won't you preaching? Yeah. Okay. So good thing you were there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

0:55.0

And if you were preaching, I would have been there. I would be there still. Yeah.

0:59.4

But it seems like you don't care that I'm preaching and like you just, listen, I don't

1:03.0

even care that you miss church. I care that you missed me. Okay. Well, first thing you

1:07.5

need to give context. Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. Family. Family was in town. Oh, I'm sorry.

1:11.5

Yeah. That was when we were doing the family gathering. Jesus did say that he would bring

1:15.5

a sword between us and the family members. You put, but you're apparently put Jesus on

1:20.1

the wrong side of the sword or something. I don't know. Let's find out. I know you had

1:23.1

family things. So I understand you might miss an extra service like this, but you know,

1:26.8

it's not a, it's not a Sunday morning service. Yeah. I understand that. Okay. So then

1:30.3

all right. Where's all this? Okay. No, because I needed you and you weren't there for me.

1:36.0

How did you need me? In what ways don't I need you? I mean, I feel like, I feel like

1:40.7

I need you all the time. You know, I needed the support, the encouragement, the adaboy,

1:45.5

so you know, I needed the butt slap. I needed to go get them. I needed to go get them.

1:49.2

Good job, Tiger. I needed the, you know, the tussle, tussle my hair. I never, I actually

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