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The Wild West Extravaganza

Young Guns 2: Fact vs Fiction

The Wild West Extravaganza

Wild West Josh

Education, History

4.8833 Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

If you grew up watching westerns in the late 80s and early 90s, Young Guns II was probably on your list, but how much of what we saw on screen was true? Today, we dig into the real history behind Billy the Kid and Young Guns II with Dan LeFebvre, the award-winning host of the Based on a True Story Podcast. Together, we explore questions such as whether cattle baron John Chisum actually placed a bounty on Billy the Kid, if Pat Garrett really rode with Billy before becoming a lawman, and whether the legendary showdown at White Oaks actually took place. We also dive into the myths of Brushy Bill Roberts and uncover the truth about Dave Rudabaugh’s infamous nickname. Also discussed are Billy the Kid’s gang, the offer of a pardon, dime novels, vigilante justice, and other enduring legends that have kept Billy’s story alive for more than 140 years. If you’re a fan of westerns, historical movies, or the true tales behind the legends of the Old West, this is one conversation you won’t want to miss.   Buy Me A Coffee! https://buymeacoffee.com/wildwest   Based on a True Story! https://www.basedonatruestorypodcast.com/   Check out the website! https://www.wildwestextra.com/   Series on Billy the Kid! https://www.wildwestextra.com/billy-the-kid-compilation/   Series on Pat Garrett! https://www.wildwestextra.com/pat-garrett-compilation/   The REAL Lincoln County Regulators! https://www.wildwestextra.com/doc-scurlock-the-lincoln-county-regulators/   Email me! https://www.wildwestextra.com/contact/   Free Newsletter! https://wildwestjosh.substack.com/   Join Patreon for ad-free bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/wildwestextra Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

If you grew up watching Westerns in the late 80s and early 90s, chances are young guns too

0:05.1

was one of them. But how much of what we saw on the screen actually occurred in real life?

0:10.6

Did John Chisholm really put a bounty on Billy the Kid's head? Did an old man named Brushy Bill

0:15.5

Roberts really stepped forward decades later claiming to be the kid? And what about Pat Garrett? Was he really part of

0:22.1

Billy the Kid's gang? That showdown at White Oaks really happened like they portrayed in the movie?

0:27.5

And what the heck was Dave Rudebaw's real nickname? Spoiler alert, it was not Arkansas. And that is

0:33.6

exactly what we're going to be discussing today, plus a whole lot more.

0:41.7

I recently had a chance to sit down with the great Dan LaFeb, the award-winning host of the Based on a True Story podcast.

0:43.9

If you're not familiar, Dan's been running based on True Story since 2016, comparing

0:48.2

real history with what we see on screen and movies and television.

0:52.5

His show has covered hundreds of titles, from historical epics to cult favorites,

0:57.0

breaking down what the filmmakers got right and what they got wrong.

1:00.7

It's fun, it's educational, and if you love histories and movies, which I know you do,

1:05.5

you will most definitely walk away with plenty of new stories to share with your friends and

1:09.6

family.

1:10.5

Like I said, Dan and I covered everything from Billy the Kid's gang to Pat Garrett's transformation from friend to enemy,

1:17.0

whether the kid was really offered that legendary pardon.

1:19.8

And we even got into dime novels, vigilante justice, and a few other enduring myths that have kept Billy the Kid's story alive for more than 140 years.

1:28.7

Make sure you check out Dan's show wherever you listen to podcasts. It really is great. I had a ton of

1:33.4

fun and I'll drop a few links down below. And if you're curious to learn more about Billy the

1:38.2

kid and his various associates, I do have episodes on a lot of these guys. Once again, links down

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below. All right, links down below.

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