When the thriller series You premiered five years ago, it started a lot of conversations.

The show was told largely from the point of view of a charismatic serial killer named

Joe, and it followed his obsession with and stalking of a young woman.

Penn Badgley plays the very dangerous Joe, and he hasn't changed much as a person, even

though his circumstances have.

The Netflix series recently turned for a fourth season, so we thought it'd be a good time

to revisit our conversation about the third season.

I'm Ayisha Harris, and I'm Linda Holmes, and in this encore episode of NPR's Pop

Culture Happy Hour, we're talking about the Netflix show You.

It's just the two of us today, and before we get started, I want to clear up some sort

of rules of the road for this episode.

As we mentioned in the intro, this is the third season of You, and what we're going to

do is talk for a while about the show, while spoiling only of the events, really, of the first

two seasons talking more vaguely about the third.

Then we'll take a break, then we'll do a more spoilery conversation about this third

season and what happens in it.

So you won't miss that transition.

We will definitely give you some warning.

Joe, who's played, as we mentioned by Penn Badgley, is a dangerous serial killer in the

first season.

He stalked and eventually killed a woman named Beck.

In the second, the tables wound up being turned on him as a woman named Love, played by Victoria

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