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Live Free with Josh Howerton

You've Been LIED TO About America's History With Christianity (ft. Tim Barton) | Live Free with Josh Howerton

Live Free with Josh Howerton

Lakepointe Church

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Did the Founding Fathers actually want Christianity out of government, or is that the biggest historical lie ever told? Pastor Josh Howerton sits down with Tim Barton of WallBuilders to go straight to the original documents: the Aiken Bible endorsed by Congress, Jefferson's original draft of the Declaration of Independence arguing against slavery, the prayer proclamations of John Hancock, and the letter that gave us the phrase "separation of church and state." What you were taught in school and what the primary sources actually say are two very different things. This conversation doesn't just rewrite the narrative, it goes back to the original sources to recover what was always true. From the Marxist roots of revisionist history to the founding fathers' forgotten anti-slavery legacy, this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew about America's founding. In this episode, you'll learn: Why Congress endorsed and recommended the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States What Thomas Jefferson's original draft of the Declaration actually says about slavery, and why it was removed What "separation of church and state" really meant and where the phrase actually comes from Why the founding fathers quoted the Bible more than any other source in their writings How Marxist ideology deliberately rewrote American history, and why it matters for Christians today Stand firm. Think biblically. Live free. Check out Tim & David Barton’s Book The American Story: https://a.co/d/00SL8cDf 🧢 Want a Live Free hat of your own? Visit LiveFree.shop 📲 Looking to grow deeper in your faith? Check out the Lakepointe App to access our Discipleship Guide, daily Bible reading plan, and more. Text APP to 20411 to download

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0:00.0

What you're seeing right now is the culture war is downstream of a spiritual war.

0:03.3

I feel like having a culture that has become more secular, and even a church that is less biblical, we have forgotten our starting place, which is what Paul says in Romans is, hey, we are all sinners in need of a savior. There's none, righteous, no, not want. All of sin and comes short the glory of God. And it's really lack of biblical perspective, but also it's because we've embraced a lot of Marxist ideology, not based on truth.

0:23.8

Well, hey, Lifree Nation, before we lack of biblical perspective, but also it's because we've embraced a lot of Marxist ideology,

0:22.0

not based on truth.

0:27.8

Well, hey, Lifree Nation, before we jump into the episode, this podcast is recorded right here at Lake Point Church in Dallas, Texas, but the Liv Free Nation is spread all over the country

0:33.1

and all around the world.

0:34.3

So if you've been watching and thinking, man, I wish I could be part of something like this, we want to invite you to take a simple next step, and that is join the world. So if you've been watching and thinking, man, I wish I could be part of something like this.

0:38.3

We want to invite you to take a simple next step and that is join us for church online.

0:43.3

Every weekend we stream our services live on YouTube, Facebook and our church online platform,

0:47.3

and it's more than just watching a service.

0:49.3

There are a live host in the chat.

0:51.3

Prayer teams ready to stand with you and people all around the world worshiping together

0:55.5

in real time.

0:57.5

And so whether you're exploring the faith,

0:59.3

coming back to church or just looking for a place to start,

1:02.4

church online is a great way to jump in

1:04.2

and experience what God is doing here at Lake Point.

1:07.2

We would love to see you in the chat this weekend

1:09.4

and now enjoy the podcast. Tim Barton, welcome to live free. Thank you. Dude, this, we may top our previous one. This may be the most interesting episode we've ever done. We were talking before this. I don't know how we're about to cover all of the things that I want to cover that are going to absolutely blow your mind. But we're really honored you here, man. I am so honored to be here. And yes,

1:30.5

I've already pulled stuff off the table knowing we don't have enough time for it. There's so much to get into. This is going to be not. I've been wanting to do this, so I'm going to give you a heads up. This is, here's what we're getting ready to talk about for, for listeners. I'm going to lead into it and show you something from CNN in a second.

1:44.8

Obviously, we're doing this thing right now that was going on this last week called America Rees the Bible, political leaders in D.C. reading passages of the Bible. I read Nehemi 7 and 8. I was there. Really? You got to do it. Dang it, dude. I mentioned this beforehand. They asked me to fly over there and be a part of it. and I couldn't, I was in Greece this week leading a journey of Paul discipleship trip. But it was stunning. I didn't know you were a part of it. So anyway, that has led to a freak out by a lot of, man, I'm out of breath. I just did push-ups. That's my little thing. That's why your arms look big when you come in here. Okay. Stop, dude. Stop it. It gets my heart rate going. It's helpful.

2:19.3

It led to a freak out in the media about, man, no politician should ever be reading the book.

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