We're back! We're back! It's a distraction! I drew that's raw! Are you doing raw?

I'm good man, what's happening? It is Defector Offsight Weeks, we're recording this one.

It's raw. You and I, as this podcast is being posted, we're congregating at an exciting

cabin resort. All together as a Defector staff, we'll serial killer wipe us all out during

our stay. Got it. Maybe? Yeah, it would be pretty fucking cool if that happened.

I would like to be, I don't want to be the first one to go. I don't want the dread of

being the last one. Yeah. We're like, oh, I'm gonna go hide in my car and that doesn't

work because you've also, and you box yourself in, you've already fucked yourself over by

hiding in a car. Yeah, the first one's the one that people remember, and then maybe I

think the best case for me in this case would be to get the impaling one because there's

always an impaling one. Yeah, or be the one who gets murdered while you're fucking.

Yeah. Oh, well, that's, yes, ideal. Like at least you're getting laid and then, you

know, I mean, shit goes around because you're getting laid. Yeah, yeah. Your, your horny

teenage hubris came back to bite you in the ass, but it would be a bummer if we were doing

one of our like four hour culture meeting things that you do at an offsite, and then you

start hearing the like, ch-ch-ch-ch. I think that would be, that would really be a drag.

And we all start doubting each other like, what if it's Tom Lay? Who can you trust? He's

so quiet. He's always been a quiet one that Tom Lay. He's got a mustache. Oh, have you

ever actually, Roth, have you ever been to a business offsite? Hell no. No, that is not

the type of career trajectory that I was on. I had like, you know, I've had a lot of like

shitty office jobs and like email jobs and stuff like that, but it like tops was not renting

like a hotel suite somewhere where we all went and talk strategy. Like if they were, I was

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