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The Unspeakeasy With Meghan Daum

You Too Can Go Broke In Middle Age! Annabelle Gurwitch Leads The Way

The Unspeakeasy With Meghan Daum

Meghan Daum

Society & Culture

4.7855 Ratings

🗓️ 1 March 2021

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Writer and performer Annabelle Gurwitch never got rich over the course her decades-long career, but she managed to carve out a decent life as a working actor and published author. In her fifties, however, her fortunes changed and she found herself divorced, renting out a room in her house, and wondering how a middle class existence can slip away after a lifetime of hard work. She chronicles these struggles-often hilariously-in her fifth book You're Leaving When? Adventures in Downward Mobility. In this conversation, Annabelle speaks with Meghan about how she thinks she got to this place, what she's learned about homelessness and access to health care, and how a recent medical crisis has raised her stakes even further. She also speaks about her child, now a young adult, who identifies as nonbinary and how coming to understand that identity led her to think that future  generations might be able to make better sense of the world than we do.   Guest Bio: Annabelle Gurwitch is the author of five books, including The New York Times bestseller and Thurber Prize finalist I See You Made an Effort. She's written for The New Yorker, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Wall Street Journal, LA Magazine and Hadassah among other publications. Her latest book is You're Leaving When? Adventures in Downward Mobility, published by Counterpoint Press.

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0:00.0

You know, once we have the internet and our social medias, and now my kid, of course, isn't on Facebook.

0:10.9

They're on Instagram, right, on TikTok.

0:13.9

But once everybody became their own media personality, living in their own world and their own brand,

0:20.7

I get why they feel they have to

0:23.3

just tell the world who they are as much as I find it completely annoying and like way over,

0:30.3

I mean, oversharing and information I don't want to have and why do you need to do that? I know why,

0:36.8

because we created an economy and a world where everyone has to broadcast what they had for

0:43.6

dinner and their sexuality.

0:45.3

And this is how they establish themselves in the world.

0:48.0

I feel like, you know, we're just living with the world we gave them.

0:57.7

Welcome. living with the world we gave them. Welcome to the Unspeakable podcast.

1:00.2

I'm your host, Megan Down.

1:02.2

My guest is writer and performer Annabelle Gerwitch.

1:05.8

Annabelle has a decades-long career in both film and television and in print media.

1:12.1

She never got rich, but she managed to carve out a decent life as a work-long career in both film and television and in print media. She never got rich,

1:16.7

but she managed to carve out a decent life as a working actor and a published author.

1:22.3

Over the last several years, her fortunes have changed, alongside changes in the industry she's relied on, and in her 50s she found herself divorced, renting out a room in her house for extra money,

1:29.1

and like millions of other Americans, wondering how a middle-class existence can slip away

1:34.3

after a lifetime of hard work. She chronicles these struggles, often hilariously, in her fifth

1:40.5

book, You're Leaving When? Adventures in Downward Mobility. In this conversation,

1:46.4

Annabel spoke with me about how she thinks she got to this place, which she's learned about

1:50.7

homelessness and access to health care, and how a recent medical crisis has raised her stakes

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