Do you want to fight self-centeredness?

Nancy De Moss Volgumu says there's one step you can take.

Invite someone over.

I have to tell you, my bent is to be selfish.

And hospitality is a way of running into the face of that selfishness and

breaking down that natural selfish instant.

This is the Revive Our Hearts Podcast with Nancy Damas Welkamuth, author of Chosing Gratitude.

For April 8th, 2024, I'm Dana by my dear friend Aaron Davis. She's the author of Connected, Curing the Pandemic of everyone feeling alone together.

Welcome, Aaron.

Ah, any day I get to spend time with you is a good day.

I'm glad to be with you.

Me too. I'm glad you're here. We have so much to talk

about today but before we get to our main topic, I want to play you something Nancy

shared in the early days of Reviver Hearts. This was way back in 2002. Think about the kind of day that we're

living in. This is a world where people tend to put up high walls around

themselves. I think of the words lonely, fearful, suspicious when I think of

this culture. So many people who are wounded, people who are detached because they've been

hurt in relationships.

It's a world of broken relationships,

a world of rejection, and isolation, and drive-by shootings, and crime.

And so people tend to kind of... drive-by shootings and crime.

So people tend to kind of hunker down in their little

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