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I'm generally generally going to fan of the

who the surprises throughout my life, but over time they have gotten more political.

I mean, you can go way back in the day for Pulitzer Prizes and they would give awards to

all kinds of different authors and writings and this and that, but they have they like the Nobel

Prize similar to a lot of other awards have gone way, way, way trying to send a message.

And nice week they announced the Pulitzer Prize for the 1619 project.

That was that thing they did in the New York Times where they made the argument that the United

States is founded on slavery and were shot through and through with racism from the very founding.

Right and that's the great animating force in American history.

Tim Sandefur Tim the lawyer a long time fan favorite and host favorite here on the Armstrong

Gettyshow joins us to discuss this the 1619 project and its flaws and the silliness of the Pulitzer Prize.

Tim is the vice president for litigation for the Goldwater Institute. Hey Tim, how are you sir?

I'm great. How are you guys doing? Good. Jack seems particularly concerned about the

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