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The Secret To Success with CJ, Karl, Jemal & Eric Thomas

You’re Doing the Work But Still Stuck — Here's the Problem

The Secret To Success with CJ, Karl, Jemal & Eric Thomas

S2S podcast

Education, Business, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Entrepreneurship

4.96.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

“Be honest — what’s something you’ve been consistent at… but haven’t seen results from yet?” You can do the right things and still be headed in the wrong direction. In this episode of the Secret to Success Podcast, the conversation goes straight at a frustration many disciplined people quietly carry: “I followed the rules. I showed up. I stayed consistent… so why isn’t it working?” This isn’t a motivational episode. It’s an examination. The team breaks down why effort alone doesn’t produce growth, how consistency without measurement becomes rehearsed failure, and why isolation — not laziness — is often the real reason progress stalls. You’ll hear why pain is often proof of progress, why feedback is essential (even when it hurts), and how following the wrong formula can keep smart, hardworking people stuck for years. If you’ve been doing the work but questioning the results, this episode will help you identify what needs to change — without throwing away everything you’ve built. This conversation is about alignment, correction, and building with intention — not just grinding harder. Chapters 00:00:00 Opening: Consistency Isn't Enough 00:01:26 Welcome and Team Introductions 00:06:55 How Do You Know When God Is Telling You to Move? 00:11:33 The Power of Making Decisions Over Waiting 00:13:23 Patterns Over Decisions: Learning God's Ways 00:15:57 Excellence Is God: Moving in the Spirit of Excellence 00:16:46 Consistency Without Quality Is Rehearsed Failure 00:21:37 The Sandpaper People: Why You Need Correction 00:24:18 Stop Working in Isolation: The Cage Mentality 00:34:39 Measuring Progress: Pain Equals Progress 00:38:04 Quick Evaluation: The Secret to Accelerated Growth 00:40:15 Being Coachable: ET's Jordan Brand Adjustment 00:43:09 Real Numbers, Real Accountability 00:57:52 Breaking Free from Your Cage: Changing Your Circle 01:02:07 Closing: Merry Christmas and Final Encouragement Subscribe If you’re serious about growth — not just motivation — subscribe to the channel. New conversations drop weekly, focused on discipline, clarity, and building a life that actually works. Join Our Patreon Community If you want to go deeper than the podcast, join our Patreon community. Patreon members get: - Behind-the-scenes conversations - Extended discussions and bonus content - Direct access to the community shaping these ideas in real time patreon.com/s2spodcast120 Share This Episode If this episode made you uncomfortable — it’ll probably help someone you care about. Share it with a friend who’s doing everything right but feels stuck. Share this with someone who’s doing everything right but feels stuck

Transcript

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0:00.0

You know, when I look back at what he was teaching us, right? Like, one thing you talked about was

0:04.0

consistency. And I think that's a huge key. It's one of the biggest keys to success. But I promise

0:10.6

you, it's not the only one. And so what is the strategy for taking consistency as the baseline

0:17.2

and then being able to build it correctly? Most people are consistent, but they're not consistent in the right thing because you

0:24.5

want to do it in isolation.

0:26.0

Why?

0:26.5

Because anybody that wants to do something in isolation is you don't want to be corrected.

0:31.5

I was like an eagle that was in a cage.

0:33.5

Yet the other individuals I was around, they were like, yo, this cage is fire.

0:55.8

This cage is safe. Just like, yo, benefits. Yeah. Yet the other individuals I was around, they were like, yo, this cage is fire. This cage is safe. Just like, yo, benefits, job security. It wasn't until I just said, I got to get out this cage. And that's when I saw other Eagles. And then that language, that language just sounded great. And it kept on. Oh, God. I was just going to be. We just kept soaring.

1:00.2

And yeah. And so literally, you think it's about, you know, how good you are on your job.

1:08.3

And no matter how good you are on your job, you still need to be connected with other people that's on a higher level in order for you to really excel to what you're doing. Secret to Success Podcast.

1:38.9

What's going on, world?

1:39.9

Welcome to another edition of the Secret to Success podcast.

1:42.8

I'm your host, CJ, joined as always by the Bayesian sensation, Mr. Carl Wesley Phillips. What's going on, y'all? What did do? Dr. King in the building, the Five Pillars. What's that name? Hey, man. What we got today? Family pillar, bro. Family pillar. Family. Oh, you got one for each one? Yeah, each one. See, every shirt I got is a different. So I just want y'all to know I ain't been wearing the same shirts on the pie. Ain't nothing wrong with the same shirt.

2:04.5

I'm just saying, right? Why isn't it got true? I ain't been wearing. Each one, if you read it, it's got a different. At least a lot. It's different, though. Yeah, but that's money, right? See, this is the Only shirt out here that we paid money to get shirt, make money.

2:21.3

Yeah, no, he got one for every day or the week. Every day or a year. Whatever that new book we're doing, I'm trying to. I need to do it in the way where that could be a shirt. Man, it's a lot that, man, he and I working on a new book that will be out in the new year I should say well really we're done

2:37.1

with it just to edit in and you know that kind of thing but um you know 20 years man to look back

2:44.5

and go through like literally dissect the process of where we are and you you know, what the things that we've done

2:52.6

and still so much to do. But it was, yeah, it was, it was a grind. But it was, it was work that

2:59.3

I can't wait for y'all to read it. Apologies for my voice. I landed here and it was 42 below

3:03.7

zero. And I don't know what happened, but I can't talk. So anyway, we getting ready for the holidays. We're going to see it. We're getting ready for the holidays, what's your holiday plans? Carl, you're going to Barbados? You hear what you're doing? No, we usually do Barbados, like midwinter. And for those that don't understand Michigan, midwinter is like February. Like, we just started now. Like we still good.

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