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Honestly with Bari Weiss

You're Already Living in China’s World Pt 1: The Lab Leak Lies

Honestly with Bari Weiss

The Free Press

Society & Culture, News

4.67.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2021

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

When the pandemic began eighteen months ago, anyone who dared suggest that the virus came from a lab in Wuhan, China, was dismissed as a crank, or otherwise accused of racism, xenophobia, and refusing to “believe science.” Why was this highly plausible theory unsayable? On today’s podcast, Josh Rogin, a foreign policy columnist for the Washington Post and author of “Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century” answers that question. He makes the powerful case that it all comes back to the power of the Chinese Communist Party, which he likens to the Gambino crime family. If the Gambinos, that is, were running one of the richest countries in the world. Josh is a phenomenal guest and we couldn’t contain our conversation to just one episode. So today, in Part One, a look into what went down in Wuhan and Washington during the fateful month of January 2020. We show how the “Lab Leak Theory,” due in big part to Josh’s reporting, went from a fringe conspiracy theory to a credible explanation for the virus that continues to ravage the planet. Also discussed: Anthony Fauci, Donald Trump, Rand Paul, Peter Daszak, Xi Jinping, Elaine Chao, Henry Kissinger. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Okay, it's been a crazy year so far and there's a lot more to come.

0:04.4

But you don't need us to tell you that.

0:06.2

Change begins now.

0:08.2

And we have an election to win.

0:10.6

I'm Michael Safi.

0:12.0

And I'm Helen Pitt, and we're the host of Today in

0:14.0

focus the Guardian's Daily News Podcast. Every day we'll be getting behind the

0:18.0

global headlines and offer deep dives on lesser known stories you might not realize

0:22.3

are impacting you so that you'll take away

0:24.1

something new from every single episode.

0:26.8

Listen to today in focus every weekday on Spotify.

0:29.7

I'm Barry Weiss and this is honestly.

0:33.2

COVID-19 myths have spread just about as quickly

0:36.3

as the disease itself.

0:37.9

But one myth in particular just won't go away.

0:41.1

That SARS COV2, the virus that causes COVID-19, isn't naturally occurring and was actually

0:47.4

man-made. But scientists believe that they can confidently say that the virus wasn't created by humans and the

0:55.4

myth going around is nothing more than that. A myth.

1:00.3

And for today,

1:03.0

today, conspiracy theories about the origin of the virus.

1:07.0

This morning, Dr Anthony Falchi is shooting down theories that the coronavirus was man-made.

1:12.0

I started off trying to answer this question. How did the very

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