You NEED TO KNOW About Pontzer's Paradox (ft. Eric Trexler)
RP Strength Podcast
Dr. Mike Israetel, Nick Shaw
4.7 • 582 Ratings
🗓️ 18 August 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
3 hour video interview w Eric- https://youtu.be/mQ5xPrGqtLg
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0:45 Eric Trexler intro
7:33 Pontzers paradox
14:15 Why this might happen
18:24 Your brains insane efficiency
26:52 MORE steps won't help
31:06 How legit is this research
34:42 Practical takeaways
40:53 How to calculate diet calories
48:36 Is super low calories unsafe
59:17 BMR vs RMR
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome everyone to the RP Strength podcast. I'm Nick Shaw, joined by Dr. Mike. What's up, man? |
| 0:09.8 | Hello, Mr. McShaw. |
| 0:11.4 | Hello, Dr. Mike. |
| 0:13.0 | You were a human and have emotions. So how are you feeling today? |
| 0:18.8 | I am feeling well. We are especially pleased to be joined by another guest today. |
| 0:25.3 | We had a guest on last time we did this. |
| 0:28.7 | A lot of personal transformation. |
| 0:30.8 | I do not think this guest has lost over 250 pounds before, though. |
| 0:36.2 | I could be wrong, though. |
| 0:39.3 | We're going to find out. In one one streak might I'd maybe like cumulative if you put all my cuts together I think I'm |
| 0:44.0 | getting getting close yeah we have the privilege of having on dr. Eric |
| 0:51.5 | Trexler first time ever on the podcast by by the way, but he's been on many podcasts |
| 0:56.1 | himself. |
| 0:58.3 | Eric, I'm sure a lot of people, if they follow RP, probably somewhat familiar with you, but could |
| 1:03.4 | you dive into like your background just so people have some understanding of who you are, |
| 1:08.2 | a little bit of where he came from, all the cool stuff you've done? |
| 1:11.3 | Yeah, well, let's start one on 12. |
| 1:13.6 | Great. |
| 1:14.0 | 12 year old, yeah, 12 year old Eric, grown up in Ohio, football is the religion. |
| 1:18.7 | So I got into lifting because I was fairly undersized and figured that's the only way to |
| 1:23.3 | really make this work. |
| 1:25.4 | So got into lifting at a really young age and became one of those people that |
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