Hey, team, we're doing something a little different today.

I'm going to be sharing an episode of another podcast called Hyperfocus with Ray Jacobson.

It's a show that features in-depth conversations that confront conventional thinking about neurodivergence.

I've been listening to the podcast for a few months now, and it's definitely one that I'm always on the lookout for new episodes.

Ray does a great job with her interviews, asking both the basic questions

to help ground the conversation, but also getting into the more nuanced issues that come with

neurodivergence. Today I'm going to share an episode with you where Ray talks with Dr. Christine Hargrove,

a marriage and family therapist with a focus on neurodiversity and financial therapy that she

uses to help individuals and couples understand how their symptoms

affect their financial behavior. And honestly, this is a great episode for everyone. I know so many

people who struggle with their finances, but more specifically, struggle directly because of their ADHD.

All right, here's the episode.

So first, I want to ask you, I don't always ask our guests this, but could you

tell us a little bit about who you are and what you do? Because what you do is fascinating.

Yes. So I'm Christine Hargrove and I am a licensed marriage and family therapist. And I also do

financial therapy. Much of the time when I'm doing financial

therapy, I mean, we really dig into the numbers. Like it's not, it's not treating a mental

health disorder. It's like we don't know how to talk about money. We don't know how to think about

money. We have a lot of, there's a lot of financial shame, especially with ADHD, a lot of confusion about, like, so I have ADHD and I struggle with finances, which is pretty typical for ADHD years.

So what do I do?

Yeah.

What do I need to do differently?

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