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So I just want to issue a head phone disclaimer mamas in case we got the little's in the room

or we're doing a group or we're out in public. I just want you to know, headphones, headphones,

girl, because there is a little spicy language, but it's passionate and well placed.

Hey friend, it's Nicole, host of the Nicole Walters podcast. Here's where we laugh, we cry, and

we grant ourselves grace as we do life together. Let's get started. Hey friends so I am really thrilled with the way that you've been

responding to season four of our chats because as I promised we're going to get even more unfiltered even more frank

because it's about living boldly and you also know that I promised that I would not

bring anyone into our conversation, our growth that I did not think was going to contribute to that, have value beyond the time that you'll spend listening, and was very qualified.

And I have been blown away by the responses to, you know, me sharing about entitlement

and how that, you know, triggers us and, you know, some of the therapy resources I've engaged in

like EMDR and talk therapy and then also exercising and practicing what I'm

learning in therapy by changing my boundaries changing my habits affirming my boundaries and

you guys are doing it too so it's been really fun chatting about that in the DMs and so

for that reason I felt like let's keep doing the hard work right we'll keep doing it together and I want to introduce you to one of my favorite resources you know for learning right because we have to know what it is and name it to fix it, right? And then also, one of my favorite sort of,

I want to call it accessible, approachable, relatable ways to talk about therapy,

particularly if you have some stigma associated to it

or if it's something you're not used to.

And Dr. Scott Lyons is all that.

Now, don't like the doctor part scare you. You heard me say accessible and real. He is a regular person, a kind human who is smart and qualified, but my goodness just like us and I'm just so excited to have him here today to teach us more about how

stress and trauma isn't just something that happens to us it can really become a

part of us because we become addicted to it I mean you guys probably know my background you know that it's

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