The Michael Berry Show.

About two weeks ago, I think it was July 3rd. I filled in for Clay and Buck, and I had about five things I wanted to get to,

but I started on the issue of affirmative action.

And the week prior, the Supreme Court had made several major rulings, but the one that was getting the most attention

was known as students for fair admissions versus Harvard.

And that was where Harvard, it was alleged, and I think proven in the district court and the original appellate court,

the ruling was that particularly Asian students were being discriminated against, because, oh, you're valedictorian,

and you have a perfect GPA, and you won the state championship in tennis, and you're an absolute maestro on the violin.

Well, sorry, we got a bunch of other Indian students or students of Indian descent who compete there.

We don't want to have a bunch of Indians dominating the school because you folks work too hard and do too well,

so you're not going to get in. And we've seen case after case of this.

Well, this story is not just a university admissions story. This is who gets hired, who gets promoted.

This becomes a major part of how we're going to order our society.

Are we going to order our society on the basis of fairness?

Because I was born white, my wife was born brown skin from India, my children were born black from Africa.

That's not something we can change, but we can all determine how hard we work, how well we do on tests,

what sorts of things we do with our lives, and that was supposed to be what America was about, right?

So there was an article in the New York Post by a fellow by the name of Vijay Jojo Chokal Ingham.

And when this was presented to me, it reminded me of a story of a guy that I'd read about years ago.

And Chad Nakanishi, when I said, oh, that's, that's the guy years ago that told that story.

He goes, this is the same guy. He just wrote an article, the stories come back around again.

The book was almost black, the true story of how I got into medical school by pretending to be black.

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