You Don’t Need Confidence, Just Do THIS | Leila Hormozi
The Dr. Gabrielle Lyon Show
Dr. Gabrielle Lyon
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🗓️ 20 January 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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In this episode, Gabrielle Lyon sits down with Leila Hormozi to discuss the journey from grit to empathy in both personal and professional life. Leila shares candid stories of building her first business, the sacrifices involved, and how her experiences in fitness shaped her entrepreneurial mindset. The conversation explores the value of failure, the importance of discipline, and what it truly takes to achieve business success, reflecting on the unique challenges and rewards that women encounter in leadership roles.
Gabrielle and Leila also open up about balancing ambition, relationships, and personal well-being. They address how to build trust, practice self-belief, and handle the pressures of being public figures with authenticity. You will find practical insights on navigating discomfort, the importance of continuous growth, and on creating a fulfilling life based on clear priorities and honest reflection. The episode is filled with relatable stories and actionable advice for anyone focused on self-development and leadership.
Chapters:
0:00 – From Grit to Empathy: How Leila’s Perspective Shifted
1:33 – Why Fitness Built the Foundation for Business Success
3:38 – Confidence, Self-Belief, and the Difference Between Rookie and Seasoned Entrepreneurs
8:23 – Discomfort, Anxiety, and Paying the Price for Growth
12:58 – Becoming Public-Facing and Outgrowing the Persona You Created
16:01 – Creating Content Without a Funnel or Ego-Driven Motives
19:32 – Why Fewer Women Teach Business at Scale
22:42 – What Actually Makes a Business Legitimate
24:23 – Trust, Relationships, and Learning to Trust Yourself
26:38 – Success vs Happiness and the Tradeoffs People Ignore
31:56 – Sacrifice by Season: Constraints, Focus, and Capacity
35:14 – Personal Trade-Offs and the Real Cost of Success
36:50 – Growth Levels Are About Exposure, Not Time
37:25 – Why You Should Stress Yourself Out More (Short-Term)
43:04 – Social Media, Authenticity, and Being Fully Human
46:15 – Reading Psychology and Understanding Culture
48:19 – Maintaining Relationships Between High Achievers
54:19 – Renegotiating Relationship Roles as Life Evolves
59:54 – Belief Is an Output, Not an Input
1:04:07 – Changing Your Relationship With Discomfort
1:04:55 – What’s Next: Expansion, Health, and Long-Term Vision
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| 0:00.0 | Is there something that happened? Was there a moment that made you start to reflect on transitioning from being super gritty to finding a middle balance for more empathy? |
| 0:14.0 | I don't know if there was one moment, but I think there were like lots of little moments leading up. |
| 0:18.0 | I think it's really easy to get caught up and wanting to win. Like, I went through a period in the beginning of my first business where I said the only thing that matters is this. And it's because, like, you know, me and Alex, my partner, husband, we put all our money into it. We had no money. We lost all of our money. Like, we were broke. And I was like, I don't get me about anybody else. I need to make money otherwise I don't have, like, what am I going to do? I'm not going to like go back. Like, that would suck. And so I just said, like, I don't really care about friendships. I don't really care about seeing my family right now. I don't care about anything. Like, I need to make this work. Failure is data. I don't understand. I actually don't. |
| 0:54.8 | Like, I do not think failure is a bad thing. I think people have a bad relationship with failure. They look at it like it means something about them. They look at it like it's a bad thing. Like, every time you fail, you are that much closer to success. Like, I really do believe that innately in my blood. like there has been nothing that I have |
| 1:10.7 | seated at that I have not failed at first. |
| 1:12.2 | People are always striving to make it. |
| 1:14.5 | Do you feel I really do believe that innately in my blood. Like, there has been nothing that I have succeeded at that I have not failed at first. |
| 1:12.1 | People are always striving to make it. |
| 1:14.1 | Do you feel like you've made it? |
| 1:16.1 | Um... Lela. |
| 1:34.5 | So good to see you. |
| 1:35.9 | It's good to see you too. |
| 1:37.0 | This is great. |
| 1:37.5 | We get to do it in person in Las Vegas. |
| 1:39.6 | Amazing. |
| 1:40.3 | I'm so excited. |
| 1:41.5 | So you've been in fitness for a long time. |
| 2:20.4 | Yes. Technically. Right. And my question is, do you think that you would have come as far if fitness wasn't a standard? It's actually really funny because I was talking about that with my husband like literally a week ago, which was I'm so glad that I actually had the foundation and fitness going into business because I think just with how immersed I have been in it and like how much the obsession it's taken over my life, I don't know if I would have been able to take care of myself. I hadn't like had the foundation there. And so we were both talking about that. Like, I think that if I hadn't had the foundation, there's a few things, which is like, one, |
| 2:30.7 | I don't think that I would have been able to go as long as I have or have the endurance because I wouldn't have known how to take care of myself. And so it's like if I hadn't known how to eat or how to exercise or sleep or like any of those things, |
| 2:32.5 | I think I would have burned out pretty quick. |
| 2:33.7 | I think a lot of people do. |
| 2:40.9 | And I would say the second thing is that the skill of learning how to do things that suck, |
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