Hey there, welcome back everyone. This is Ari Witten and welcome back to the Energy Blueprint

podcast. Today I have with me Dr. Jack Wolfson, who is a board-certified cardiologist and a

fellow of the American College of Cardiology.

And he's one of the world's leading holistic natural cardiologists.

He was a Natural Choice Award winner in the holistic MD category from Natural Awakening's magazines.

And he's been featured on major media outlets, USA Today, NBC, CNN, the Wall Street

Journal, and so on.

And he's also known as the paleo cardiologist.

I brought him on.

I'm very excited to have him on to talk about all things, kind of holistic cardiology.

So welcome, Jack.

Thank you so much, Ari.

It's a pleasure to be on.

And, you know, when you kind of talk about me being one of the best holistic cardiologists around, it's, I certainly agree with that, but there's also not a lot in the way of competition, right? You know, I left a group of 40 cardiologists that were in my, you know, former practice, of which I was a senior partner over there and not one of them

had any interest in a holistic mindset in talking about nutrition or lifestyle or even

evidence-based supplements. It just was all about pills and procedures. I definitely, you know,

think that, you know, the holistic cardiology is on and there are some of us and we go through training and we speak

with each other and kind of a lot of us know who we are. And, you know, I guess the other thing is

that I do get more and more phone calls these days from conventional cardiologists looking to switch

over looking to learn what I know. So I think that's certainly a positive. Yeah, for sure.

So with with that in mind, how did you actually get into doing that? How did you get into

holistic and integrative cardiology when you're being brought up in a medical paradigm that is

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