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Practical Stoicism

You Cannot Be Just a Stoic

Practical Stoicism

Tanner Campbell

Self-improvement, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Education

4.7723 Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I take aim at what I call “stoa shaming”—the habit of pointing out someone’s failure to be perfectly Stoic as a way of dismissing both them and the philosophy.

You’ve seen it. Someone loses their temper, struggles with their weight, or makes a mistake, and the response is: “That’s not very Stoic of you.” On the surface, it sounds like a call to higher standards. In reality, it reveals a misunderstanding of Stoicism itself.

Stoicism does not expect perfection from its practitioners. It defines perfection—sagehood—as something effectively unattainable. The Sage is a theoretical ideal: someone who never errs in judgment, never assents incorrectly, and never acts viciously. That’s not us. That’s not anyone.

What we are, instead, are prokoptôns—progressors. People in motion. People practicing.

This matters because if you misunderstand Stoicism as requiring perfection, then every mistake becomes evidence of failure, and every practitioner becomes a hypocrite. That’s the logic behind stoa shaming. It reduces a philosophy of progress into a brittle standard no one can meet.

But Stoicism isn’t a label you “achieve.” It’s a framework you use. Saying “I’m a Stoic” doesn’t mean you embody perfect virtue. It means you’re attempting to move toward it using Stoic principles.

That means mistakes aren’t contradictions of the philosophy—they are the condition under which the philosophy is practiced.

When someone says, “That’s not very Stoic of you,” what they’re often doing is collapsing the distinction between Sage and student. They’re holding a progressor to the standard of perfection and then using the inevitable gap to dismiss both the person and the system.

It’s also, in many cases, a defensive move. If they can frame you as inconsistent, they can ignore what you’re saying. If you’re not perfect, then your arguments don’t count. It’s an easy way to avoid engaging with the substance.

The Stoic response is simple: reject the premise. You are not trying to be flawless. You are trying to improve. And improvement requires error, correction, and continued effort over time.

So when you fall short—and you will—you haven’t failed at Stoicism. You’ve participated in it.

And when someone tries to use your imperfection against you, consider what they’re actually asking for: not progress, but perfection. Not practice, but performance.

That’s not Stoicism.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey there for Capitans, before we get started today real quick, I'm doing a workshop on May

0:03.9

the 9th. Tickets are still available. Go to stoicismpod.com forward slash May, as in the month of May,

0:12.9

and you can get your tickets. Since you're a listener of the program, I'm going to offer you 50%

0:17.2

off of the prices for the tickets, and that code is SP50.

0:23.9

So long as the tickets are still available, the code will be valid.

0:27.4

I hope you can make it.

0:28.7

More information at stoicismpod.com forward slash May. One of my greatest pet peeves and folks, I am sorry to say that I have many, maybe you do too, is when anyone, but especially

0:55.9

our fellow stoics, participate in what I call stoas shaming. For example, if we're overweight,

1:04.1

such people might say we're not very good stoics. Or if we lose our tempers, we're also not good

1:10.8

stoics. Or if we run a foulers, we're also not good stoics.

1:12.0

Or if we run a foul of a rule or an expectation, or if we get frustrated and lash out at someone,

1:18.6

oh, that's not very stoic of you, Steve.

1:22.5

Stoishaming doesn't bother me because I'm ashamed of my behavior.

1:26.3

I'm not, at least not in most cases. Rather,

1:29.4

it bothers me because it communicates and perpetuates a fundamentally incorrect understanding

1:36.1

of Stoic philosophy. The understanding that a Stoic never falls off the wagon, and thus,

1:43.2

to be anything other than perfect, is to be a failed Stoic.

1:48.5

And to be a failed Stoic is to be a hypocrite.

1:51.9

Since no Stoic is perfect, it must be the case that all Stoics are nothing more than moralizing hypocrites

1:58.7

who can't even embody their own values any more than anyone else.

2:05.0

Now that is, thankfully, utter nonsense, and in this episode I'm going to attempt to try to help you to

2:11.0

understand why. In Stoicism, there's a term for perfection. It's not a fancy term. It's not an ancient Greek term. You know this

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