Welcome to the show. Thanks for joining. This is going to be a fun one. Well, we're about to blow the lid up, but open on some really interesting stuff in terms of the Maha movement, which is a very, very, very popular movement in America right now.

I have to say, and Steve and I have talked about this before,

I have a number of friends, including family members,

who are diehard Maha.

You know, they really believe that a lot of the things that RFK Jr. and Cali Means have been saying about the food

industry and vaccines are legitimate. And some of it is, specifically on the food industry.

You know, I lived in Europe for a few years and I definitely notice that when you live in a place

where there are more regulations for your food, you are healthier.

It's not a proven thing, but you can just, it's just a feeling.

You know, the fruit isn't as beautiful, but it's not, you know, and not so many pesticides.

You know, that the skincare has 200 products that can't go and it's regulated.

Here in America, we have barely anything compared to that. Even when they try to do a T-TIP deal with

Obama, a transatlantic partnership deal back in 2014, the Europeans didn't want to do it because they thought they don't like that

we actually chlorinate our chicken. They think that we have too many hormones in our beef.

So there's a lot of, there's a lot to it that makes the Maha movement compelling. There are a lot

of questions about what causes autism. And so there are a lot of questions about what causes a lot

of disease, right? And I think the questions are where people come in and they try to fill in the

answers and some of them do it dishonestly. And that's and that's sort of the direction of this show

because Steve has firsthand knowledge about Kelly Means and who he is. And, you know, I first learned about him

through friends, through my aunt, who's a nurse practitioner, told me, she was like, no, no,

no, no, no, go read Kelly Means book. And she and all, a lot of the nurses in her hospital,

is top hospital in North Carolina and Charlotte.

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