Oh, he's cute. Mr. I can never sleep when I'm traveling. He's hugging his pillow like a sloth on a branch.

He couldn't sleep before. Now listen to him. Sounds like an elephant with a chest infection.

Well, they call him a dreamer. And now they're right.

All aboard, Mr. I can never sleep when I'm travelling find all the comfort you need in the quiet

lounge Piando ferries that is another way I mean I've done this for 25 years

there has never been a term like this. This has been the strangest, strangest term and a piece of that is that there's this one story which is what's happened in the doctrine right what happened to the

Chevron you know deference what happened in the immunity case and then there's this

other strand that is the corruption scandals the self-dealing secret conclaves in California and those are not different stories. Hey folks, welcome to the Michael Steele podcast. I'm Michael Steele.

You can tell by the tab.

I really appreciate you guys dropping in to this episode. We've got

Dahlia Lithwick, who's a senior editor at Slate, and she's written their Supreme Court dispatches and jurisprudence columns since 1999.

So this sister has been in the Supreme Court space

for quite a while.

She hosts Amicus, Slate's Award Winning

Bewweekly Podcasts about the law and the Supreme Court, which is a lot of fun to listen to and she breaks stuff down very nicely and she did this time. It's a great conversation and she shares with us some insights

certainly from her book Lady Justice, Women, the Law, and the Battle to

Save America, as well as a number of the Supreme Court cases that have

arisen in the last term that are vexing and perplexing. Dahlia Lythwick here on the Michael Steele podcast coming up right after this.

Hey everybody I'm so glad you could drop by the Michael Steele podcast. I'm excited to have Dalia back because it has been way too long since the two of us has sat down and had a conversation about law and politics and not much has happened since the last time we were together.

I mean, and jeez, Daniel, welcome to the podcast the podcast is so great to have you come over from the amicus because that's what you host the the amicus podcast

it's good to be with you Michael. I was just thinking so often we're on MS NBC and we're just like our heads are on fire and we have like four minutes into which to contain that so it's nice to have a little bit of time.

We have time and I just I love having you on because you there there's a small number of I think legal analysts who are for either current or former practitioners,

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