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The Daily Dad

"You Can't Parent Without Hope" | Maggie Smith

The Daily Dad

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Relationships, Education, Ryan Holiday, Society & Culture, Wisdom, Self-improvement, Kids & Family, Parenting, Fatherhood, Dads

4.6630 Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

"The world is at least fifty percent terrible, and that’s a conservative estimate, though I keep this from my children," writes Maggie Smith in her viral poem Good Bones. Today, Maggie joins Ryan to talk about what it means to shield children from the world's harsh realities while still acknowledging its beauty and potential. They discuss how parents can balance hope with realism, the importance of instilling strong values, and the courage it takes to remain earnest and sincere in a cynical world.

In 2016, Maggie Smith’s poem Good Bones became a viral sensation. It was named the “Official Poem of 2016” by the Public Radio International. Maggie Smith is the New York Times bestselling author of You Could Make This Place Beautiful; My Thoughts Have Wings, a picture book illustrated by SCBWI Portfolio grand prize winner Leanne Hatch; the national bestsellers Goldenrod and Keep Moving: Notes on Loss, Creativity, and Change; as well as Good Bones, named one of the Best Five Poetry Books of 2017 by the Washington Post and winner of the 2018 Independent Publisher Book Awards Gold Medal in Poetry. 
 

Maggie’s latest book, Dear Writer: Pep Talks & Practical Advice for the Creative Life just released! You can grab signed copies of Dear Writer at The Painted Porch in addition to her books You Could Make This Place Beautiful and Keep Moving

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0:00.0

Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Dad podcast, where on the weekends, we do a deeper dive

0:08.4

and how to get better at our most important job, being a parent. Sometimes in these episodes,

0:13.9

I talk to best-selling authors and elite performers and other guests, but lately I've also

0:18.5

been having conversations with my wife, Samantha, the co-parent of my two

0:22.6

boys. We do it over in the Daily Stoic studio here in Bastrop, Texas. She and I talk about things

0:29.0

that we're working on as parents, things that we're working on as people, and how we are supporting

0:35.8

each other, challenging each other, and like I said, trying to get

0:40.3

better at what we do.

0:41.6

Guest or not, I hope you hear some ideas here that will help make you a better parent.

0:47.2

I was better for having the conversation.

0:48.9

I hope you enjoy.

0:55.7

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1:08.9

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