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The Virtual Couch

You Can’t Cram for the Test of Life - Dr. Mark Redford on Flossing, Faking It, and Why Habits Never Lie

The Virtual Couch

Tony Overbay LMFT

Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.9668 Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

You lie to your dentist. You lie in therapy. And here's the uncomfortable truth — the patterns you think you're hiding are hiding nothing. Tony Overbay, LMFT, sits down with friend and dentist Dr. Mark Redford to unpack one of the most fascinating overlaps between dentistry and human psychology: impression management — and why you simply cannot cram for the test of life. From the dental chair to the therapy couch, the habits you actually practice tell a story no amount of performance can cover up. If you've ever "prepared" for a dentist appointment by flossing for three days straight, this episode is your mirror. In this episode, you'll explore: Why your dentist can spot that you don't floss before you even open your mouth — and what that reveals about the limits of impression management in every area of your life The concept of "cramming for the test of life" and why emotional growth, empathy, and trust can't be memorized the night before How co-regulation works in the dental chair (and in your closest relationships) — and why calm presence is more powerful than joining someone in their chaos The "post-cleaning motivation shelf life" — why that I'm a new person feeling lasts about two weeks, whether you're leaving the dentist or your first therapy session The difference between unconscious incompetence and conscious incompetence — and why knowing you're avoiding something is actually meaningful progress The hidden burnout drivers in helping professions, why pathological kindness can work against you, and what it looks like when patients (or clients) need someone to blame Tony Overbay is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with over 20 years of experience helping individuals and couples move from stuck and confused to grounded and growing. If Dr. Redford's calm, co-regulating presence sounds like exactly what your nervous system needs in a dentist, you can reach him at info@redfordsmiles.com, follow him on Instagram @redfordsmiles, or visit redfordsmiles.com. And while you're at it — his wife Amy offers cooking classes for all ages, from cookie decorating to high-end culinary experiences. Find her on Instagram @onecutecookiekitchen or at onecutecookie.net. Whether you're finally ready to be honest with your dentist — or with yourself — tonyoverbay.com is a great place to start. If you're a man who wants to build real emotional strength (not just talk about it), the Men's Emotional Architects group is open. Reach out at contact@tonyoverbay.com to learn more. The updated Magnetic Marriage course is also coming soon — get on the waitlist at tonyoverbay.com/magnetic. Please follow Tony on Instagram @virtual.couch on TikTok @virtualcouch on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/tonyoverbaylmft and on Substack https://thevirtualcouch.substack.com/ You can reach out to Tony through his website tonyoverbay.com or by emailing contact @ tonyoverbay.com

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the virtual couch. Please take a seat for pillars. Emotional maturity. They're

0:09.0

self-worth, run so deep. You are not broken. You're a human. So check that out. You don't know.

0:18.1

What you don't know is what it's all about.

0:22.6

Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of the virtual couch.

0:25.6

I am your host, Tony Overbay.

0:26.6

I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist.

0:28.6

Also host of the Waking Up to Narcissism podcast and the soon-to-return murder on the couch podcast as well.

0:35.6

If you have ever had the desire to listen to the waking up

0:39.2

to narcissism podcast but just thought, okay, I don't really have a narcissist in my life.

0:44.2

I would highly encourage you to jump over and listen to the episode that just dropped earlier

0:49.5

this week because I have a big reveal. And I talk a lot about why I do so much of the work that I do

0:56.0

around the concepts around emotional immaturity and narcissistic traits, tendencies, personality

1:01.3

disorder and it has to do with interacting with some people in my family that I finally decided

1:06.3

to open up a little bit more about. If that isn't a teaser, I don't know what would be,

1:10.2

but I really would encourage you to go over to the waking up to narcissism podcast. I'll put the link in the show notes just a little bit more about. If that isn't a teaser, I don't know what would be, but I really would

1:11.0

encourage you to go over to the Waking Up to Narcism podcast. I'll put the link in the show notes just in case. And you can even just say that you're listening for a friend if you don't want to get caught listening to that podcast, but I highly recommend that one. Today, I have an episode that I've wanted to do for the better part of a decade. Literally, my guest will confirm that. He's been hearing me

1:29.4

say that, hey, I need to get you on my podcast. I have an episode that I've wanted to do for the better part of a decade. Literally, my guest will

1:27.8

confirm that. He's been hearing me say that, hey, I need to get you on my podcast for about that long,

1:33.2

10 years. And real quick, before I get to that, follow me, of course, on Instagram at virtual.couch,

1:39.9

on TikTok at virtual couch and on substack at substack.com. The virtualcouch.com. Substack at Substack.

1:45.0

The VirtualCouch.com.

1:46.5

Substack has so much content on it.

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