Look, I live in a socialist country.

No one dislikes socialism as much as I do.

It's totally intolerable.

I don't want anybody to live like that.

I don't want Americans to live like that.

I'm not on that sign.

But if they're going to tell me that economics,

which is the science of the choosing free, consenting individual,

can answer the basic problems America has today.

That's false.

Hey, hey, and welcome.

This is the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday special.

I'm excited to welcome this week, Yoram Hazzoni.

He's president of the Herzl Institute in Jerusalem. He currently serves as the chairman of the Edmund Burke Foundation in

Washington, and he is the author of the brand new and fantastic book, The Virtue of Nationalism.

Yoram, thanks so much for stopping by. Thanks for having me. So first of all, we violated the

taboo on only one yamacup per show. So we can start off with the fact that I believe you're the first

Orthodox Jew who is not me who has been on this show. I think there's more of us coming.

Well, why don't we start with the kind of basic premise of the book? So nationalism obviously

has come under significant assault from some on the right, mostly on the left. The idea of

nationalism being seen as something inherently bad, particularly since

President Trump has picked up the mantle of nationalism and used that sort of language.

...