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Yoram Hazony talks to Quillette's Toby Young about the controversy surrounding his national conservatism conference in Rome

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Society & Culture, Politics, News, Science, News Commentary

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🗓️ 14 February 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Israeli political theorist Yoram Hazony talks to Toby Young about the national conservatism conference in Rome and why British Conservative MP Daniel Kawczynski should not have been reprimanded by his party for attending. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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name is Claire Lehman and I am editor and chief of Colette.

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Quillette is where Free Thought lives.

0:05.0

We are an independent grassroots platform for heterodox ideas and fearless commentary.

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Our podcast is a team effort and is jointly hosted by myself, Associate Editor Toby Young and Canadian editor Jonathan Kay.

0:18.0

You can support our podcast by visiting Patreon. one of Quilette's London-based editors.

0:33.0

Urim Hazoni, the Israeli political theorists,

0:36.0

is one of the most influential conservative intellectuals in the world.

0:40.0

His book, The Virtue of Nationalism,

0:42.0

was one of the most widely discussed works of political theory to be published last year.

0:47.0

Last week, Hazoni helped organize the second National Conservatism Conference.

0:52.0

Last year it was in Washington, this year in Rome,

0:55.0

and among the attendees were some of the leading Conservative politicians in Europe,

0:59.4

including Victor Orban, Mateo Salvini, and Marian Marichell Le Pen.

1:06.1

The conference became embroiled in controversy when the British Conservative MP Daniel Kaczynski

1:11.9

was criticized for attending by the Board of Deputies of British Jews,

1:16.2

and Dame Margaret Hodge, the parliamentary chair of the Jewish Labour Movement,

1:20.6

described the conference as, quote, packed full of racists homophobes and Islamophobes unquote.

1:27.2

Kaczynski ended up being reprimanded by his own party for

1:31.2

attending. I began by asking Yaram about that.

1:35.0

I think that we have here another example of what's been called cancel culture.

1:47.3

Much of the elites these days is governed by an extraordinarily intolerant worldview.

1:55.0

We could call it a liberal universalist or a liberal internationalist worldview,

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