Yesterday in Parliament 17 Oct 2025
Yesterday in Parliament
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🗓️ 17 October 2025
⏱️ 5 minutes
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More questions about the collapsed China spying case.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:05.7 | Hello, I'm Alicia McCarthy. Thanks for downloading the yesterday in Parliament podcast. |
| 0:11.2 | On Thursday the 16th of October, there was still real anger in the Commons over the collapsed China spying case. |
| 0:18.8 | New ministers must hope for a gentle first outing at the Commons dispatch box, perhaps a late-night |
| 0:24.4 | debate in a somnolent chamber, or fielding a gentle inquiry from a friendly backbencher. |
| 0:30.0 | But there was no such luck for Chris Ward, promoted to the Cabinet Office in Keir Stama's |
| 0:34.8 | post-Angela Rana reshuffle. |
| 0:37.1 | Instead, he found himself answering questions on the evidence released late on Wednesday night |
| 0:41.9 | about the collapsed China spy trial. |
| 0:44.4 | Under this government, no minister or special adviser played any role in the provision of evidence. |
| 0:50.3 | The Prime Minister cannot say, if that is the case under the previous government, |
| 0:56.8 | but I once again invite the party opposite to clarify that. |
| 0:59.8 | Having... If you missed that, that was a Conservative Tom Tuganhart, |
| 1:07.1 | accusing Chris Ward of being a petty little man, |
| 1:10.2 | which earned him a ticking off from the speaker, Sir Lindsay Hoyle. |
| 1:13.1 | Ms Tugendah, I expect better from you, you'll be wanting to catch my eye. This is not the best way to do that. |
| 1:18.9 | Please, can we just show a little bit more respect, which I'd normally get from me. |
| 1:23.3 | Passions were running high because last month the case against two men accused of passing secrets to China was dropped. Both had denied any wrongdoing. |
| 1:32.8 | Prosecutors said they'd abandoned the case because they didn't have the evidence to prove China was a threat. |
| 1:38.6 | And so late on Wednesday night, the government released three witness statements submitted by the Deputy National Security Advisor, |
| 1:45.8 | one prepared under the Conservatives and two others since Labour came to power. Chris Ward reckoned |
| 1:51.5 | all three set out the very serious threat that China posed. It's clear from this evidence, |
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