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Yesterday in Parliament

Yesterday in Parliament 12 Mar 2025

Yesterday in Parliament

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🗓️ 12 March 2025

⏱️ 5 minutes

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A heated row over so-called "two-tier" justice.

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0:00.0

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0:04.7

Hello, this is David Kornock at Westminster.

0:07.1

On Tuesday, the 11th of March, the Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood, told MPs that she

0:12.5

wouldn't hesitate to change the law if the sentencing council doesn't back down in a row

0:17.9

over so-called two-tier justice.

0:20.5

The council says judges in England and Wales

0:22.8

should review the lives of offenders from minority and other backgrounds before sentencing them.

0:29.5

The Sentencing Council issues guidelines to judges and magistrates in England and Wales.

0:34.7

From next month, judges will be told to consider the background of offenders,

0:39.0

including ethnic minorities and pregnant women, before deciding on a punishment.

0:43.8

Shabana Mahmood wrote to the Council to suggest a rethink. It wrote back, telling her it wasn't

0:49.3

for politicians to dictate sentencing. Her conservative shadow, Robert Jenrick, doesn't like the guidance either,

0:56.4

but he thought he knew who was to blame. After I brought this to her attention last Wednesday,

1:02.1

her team briefed the papers that she was, and I quote, incandescent. Well, was she incandescent at her officials or at her own failure to read her papers and do her job properly?

1:16.6

Secretary of State.

1:18.0

I mean, the shadow Lord Chancellor's amnesia continues because he has clearly not done his own work.

1:24.3

He's forgotten that it was his government that was consulted extensively

1:29.1

on this guidance. Robert Jenrick had another go. In 21 days' time, by the Justice Secretary's

1:35.5

own admission, we will have two-tier justice. Her plan to fix this won't come into effect

1:41.8

for a year. That's unacceptable. As she's been too lazy to do her

1:46.7

job, I'll do it for her. He produced an A4 sheet of paper and began to wave it about. Today I am

1:53.7

presenting a bill to block these two-tier sentencing guidelines and to fix her mess. It's here, it's ready to go, will

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