We will not bend, we will not break, we will not yield, we will never give in, we will never give up, we will never back down, we will never, ever surrender.

My fellow Americans, our movement is far from over. In fact, our fight has only just begun.

We usually end our show every Friday with the audio version of that cut from President Trump, but it is the perfect, perfect way to introduce our special one on one guest today.

He's the guy who's created something very, very special with a great name. It's almost as good as America first. It's American greatness and greatness.com. On Twitter, he's the Chris Buskerk.

Chris, welcome back to America first, one on one. I get to see you. So much to discuss Chris, we're going to move eventually in our discussion to the state of the America first, a mega movement.

Lots of very exciting candidates. I know you know a lot of them, but first given your background, your very successful business, now you're a media titan with American greatness, one of the few places that has the

the testicular 42 to cover January the 6th, especially the great work of Julie Kelly. Let's talk social media. Let's dive straight in. I did a little video for my followers on locals. I tweeted out yesterday on a piece of advice. I've no idea if he follows me.

I said to Joe Rogan Joe never apologize to the mob. They know what you to apologize. They want to delete not cancel. They want to delete you Joe Rogan. Don't do it. I know he's not a conservative Chris, but talk to us from your vantage point as the founder as the editor of American greatness.

What does the Joe Rogan experience mean? It's gosh, you know, I'll tell you this. I really like Rogan's show and I don't know him. But sort of, you know, as you know, as a radio and media personality yourself, people sort of get a sense of who you are by listening to you, you know, you know audio in particular is a very intimate medium.

And so when you listen to somebody a lot, you have a you have some sense of who they are and you know the sense of that I get of who Rogan is a thoroughly decent person. He's very smart.

He knows a lot about a lot of odd things including big foot, including big foot. I mean that and all kinds of stuff like that. And you find out you when you start pressing him on these things. If you listen to him, you know, he's got all this. He's got all this esoteric knowledge that's totally fun and fascinating.

What he doesn't get though is the nature of the opposition. He doesn't understand the nature of the people who are coming after him and he treats them as though they're coming. He treats them as though they're acting in good faith and they are not.

Can I stop you that for a second? I want you to continue that that train of focus. I think you're absolutely right. But given that this guy, you know, he was the host of a reality TV show.

He was a referee or a Comparacomentator for MMA fights. He's had this podcast now for a decade, Chris. How the hell does he not know that the establishment, especially the court, unquote, elite in the media are not acting in good faith. I think you're right. But how?

How?

Too much DMT. I don't know. That's his big weakness. The DMT stuff. The DMT stuff.

You know, and I'm only half joking because you know, Joe's in his own sort of in his own bubble. And I think, you know, he's somebody who if he listened to him, he really is just genuinely interested in these things.

And he had Dr. McCollon, you know, is just interested in the stuff. He has, you know, Elon on or has Alex Jones on. I mean, these are fascinating interviews and Joe and Rogan is clearly just interested in talking to smart and interesting people because he likes it. Right. And the the joy he gets and just having these discussions comes through.

And so I think in a certain way, he's almost insulated himself, which is probably in a way good for his sanity from the rest of the media ecosystem. And it has not done many favors in this particular instance. I mean, they what they want is two things.

They want him to go through this ritual humiliation in public where he just a basis himself in front of the entire world. And as soon as they're done with that, they want, they just want him gone. They want him gone before the before the election.

And he's just one big narrative violation. He says the things you're not supposed to say even when they're true God forbid. And somehow he's just missed the fact that you cannot treat these people as though they're acting in good faith. They're trying to hurt you. They're trying to kill your career. They're trying to take you out of, you know, they're trying to take you out of out of the discourse out of public out of public life entirely.

And then President Trump sent out the email to his email list yesterday and said, you know, Joe Rogan seems like a smart guy or an interested guy or whatever he said, but he should stop apologizing. That was the best advice ever when you're apologizing for something that you that you did and it wasn't wrong in the first place, you're losing. And he's accepted their frame.

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