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Childproof

Yep Still Mad About It

Childproof

Gwenna Laithland and Tori Phantom

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.92K Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

It turns out one episode of being mad wasn’t enough. We’re still mad but we are working through it. Anger isn’t taboo but it is hard to work with. Tori and Gwenna discuss the language they use to normalize all the big, heavy, negative emotions. It’s alright to feel frustrated but we don’t have to stay there. You’re right to be mad but is the mad helping or is it keeping you stuck.  We want to hear from you! Email us: childproofmail@gmail.com Vote for our new logo! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vj5yOzM9u9AyLW4iWbUKs7-KG3LpSZ8vPoP9GrYrNr4/edit Preorder Gwenna's new book: Thinky Thoughts: All Grown Up & Still Just As Confused Be sure to check our other shows: Founded Bibliophage Get your holiday Bones coffee! ⁠https://www.bonescoffee.com/CHILDPROOF⁠ This is an Airwave Media podcast. To advertise on this podcast please email Advertising@airwavemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I can't wait to grow up and not have feelings. Oh, nope, we don't grow out of those, bail. Nope, actually, they get a little more complicated. Sorry, sorry to break it to you, kiddo. Raising a well-behaved child in this world requires strict discipline and punishment. Today, we will look. No, the fuck we will not.

0:34.1

Hello and welcome to Childproof and Airwave Media podcast.

0:35.5

I'm Tori Phantom.

0:36.8

And I'm Gwen to Lathland.

0:38.8

And today we're picking back up right where we left off in the previous episode. Being mad is not always bad. Because feelings aren't bad.

0:45.6

But it's true. Sometimes simple is great. But before we do that, let's set the timer.

0:53.2

It was so healing for me to be able to tell my is great. But before we do that, let's set the timer.

1:01.3

It was so healing for me to be able to tell my kids that it was okay for them to be mad at me.

1:08.2

Yeah? Did you grow up in a place where it was unsafe? I know the answer, but I'm going to pretend like I don't know the answer. Did you grow up in a place where it was unsafe to feel mad, not just at your parents, but in general? It sure was. I still struggle with this. When I feel mad, I feel guilty.

1:28.0

I feel ashamed.

1:29.9

I feel afraid because my anger, it could mean a lot of things for, for, you know, more than

1:37.4

half my life, right?

1:38.6

Until I moved out.

1:40.2

And I didn't know what the consequences of my having a valid feeling would be.

1:47.1

And so it was hold it in or be afraid because I learned that association.

1:54.0

And so I often have to remind myself when I end up in that elevated state where I feel

1:59.1

mad like I'm now having a conversation

2:01.9

with myself in my head going is this a valid reason to be mad am I expressing this in a way that's

2:07.0

harmful like because number one as we know I never want to make my kids feel how I've held right

2:14.6

I never want that to be the case. But also being angry is valid.

2:20.0

And it's important that our kids see us experiencing valid emotions and expressing them

2:26.4

in a healthy way because you could be mad without being mean.

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