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I'm Osvaloshin here with Kara Price. Hi, Kara. Hi, Oz. So today I'm excited to welcome

Nicholas Thompson back onto the show. He's the CEO of the Atlantic and a big technology buff.

He has a recurring video series called The Most Interesting Thing in Tech on LinkedIn, my fave.

And he also hosts a podcast called The Most Interesting Thing in

AI. I wanted to invite him on for a roundup of his most interesting stories from 2025 and

discuss what he's looking ahead to in 26. But I also wanted to talk to him about his rather

remarkable new book, The Running Ground, which I read in one sitting.

I can sort of guess, but what is the running ground about?

It's kind of a memoir about Nick's battle with cancer, his relationship to running, and his relationship with his father, and how those things all connect in surprising ways.

When we talked, I asked him about finding his dad's unpublished memoir

and how he chose to weave it into his own story.

And, well, you just have to listen to it.

So I get this unpublished memoir, my dad had written.

And I start to read it, and it's dedicated to the seven grandchildren.

That was great. It's like, oh, that's so good, Dad. That was, like, so sweet. There's, like, an introduction about pain and many lives and, you know, the errors he's been through. And it's kind of nice. I'm like, wow, my kids will enjoy reading that. And then it's, like, talking about being in Asia. and then it is literally like it's probably page four, page five,

a description of the penis sizes of men of different races across the world.

What?

Yeah, Nick was quite confused.

How, like, you wrote the dedication page and you've, like, edited this.

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