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Well, we're divided in this house, aren't we?

Are we?

By the election results?

Are we? No. Oh. Well, we're divided in this house, aren't we? Are we? By the election results? Are we?

No.

Oh.

Well, we are divided in that I am, I'm a bit more just sort of hay-ho about it.

And also, I think I'm a bit more sort of macro.

I'm like, look, is this going to lead to, what do you call it, global, global thermo? Global thermal. Global thermonuclear Armageddon.

Global thermonuclear Armageddon. Okay. What's that thing you call the apocop? The apocalypse. We're talking about the apocalypse. I'm much more concerned with,

which president is going to lead us to like mad max, but it's real. And the fact is that

you don't know. You've got no idea and you don't know. The US election happened last night and they said, oh, it could take weeks to find out what happened.

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