The beauty of a marketplace is that I get to choose my values. I get to pursue my values.

I get to use my mind to figure out what my values are. There's no way for central planner.

There's no way for somebody else to pick values for me.

Hey, hey, and welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday special. I'm really eager and excited to welcome to the show, Yaron Brook.

Yaron is the head of the Ayn Rand Institute and also the host of the Yaron Brook podcast, the Yaron Brook Show.

So, Yaron, thanks so much for stopping by. I really appreciate it.

All my pleasure. I'm glad we finally got hooked up.

I got to tell you, the objectivists in the crowd have been

pressuring me for literally years to have you on and I kept saying like I have no objection to talking to objectivists in fact I have a lot of sympathies with objectives so let's just jump right in absolutely why we start from kind of your personal history how did you become an objectivist how did you get into this so when I was 16 I grew up in Israel so when I was 16 I was I was in Israel living in

Israel and as most history. How did you become an objectivist? How did you get into this? So when I was 16, I grew up in Israel.

So when I was 16, I was in Israel, living in Israel. And as most Israelis of my generation,

I was a collectivist, a tribalist. You know, I was waiting for the grenade so I could jump on the

grenade for the Jewish cause. And then I was a socialist, as I think everybody

in my generation growing up, this is before Began

had ever won an election.

The socialist had won every election.

And I'm having a conversation with a friend,

and he starts spouting these kind of capitalist ideas.

And I go, where are you getting this nonsense from?

And he takes out a book, and he hands me, Atlas Shrugged. And I read, where are you getting this nonsense from? And he takes out a book and he hands

me, Atlas Shrugged. And I read Atlas Shrug. And it took me months to read Atlas Shrug, because I fought it. I did not want to believe what she was saying. I did not want to believe this was true. She challenged pretty much everything I believed in. And by the end of the book, she had won. And I was hooked.

And from there, I picked up every single

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