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Yahya Abdul-Mateen Emmy Award-Winning actor on choosing to be interesting vs being right, opens up on pain, purpose, staying true to himself and honor of playing Denzel's role as John Creasy in Netflix's Man on Fire.

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4.9 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

“Do you want to be right or do you want to be interesting?” Yahya Abdul-Mateen II In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, we sit down with Yahya Abdul-Mateen II for a candid and inspiring conversation about the road that led him to becoming one of Hollywood’s most compelling actors. Full of energy, spunk and true authenticity, Yahya lets his guard down with Ryan, Channing and Fred- revealing a side of deep pain that has led to difficult healing as well as giving us a glimpse into the traits that make him one of film industry's most sought-after leading men. Yahya opens up about his childhood, sharing what it was like growing up from Louisiana to Oakland and how his upbringing and community helped shape his voice, work ethic, and backbone in creativity. He takes us behind the scenes of his unconventional journey into acting—from his aspirations of architecture and building to taking a leap of faith into acting classes and fully committing to the craft. Yahya reflects on the risks he took, the doubts he faced, and the defining moments that pushed him forward, offering insight into the discipline it took to break into a competitive industry. The conversation also dives into his standout roles across major hit projects like Aquaman, The Trial of the Chicago 7, and Watchmen—the latter earning him critical acclaim and an Emmy Award. Yahya shares how he approaches complex characters and prepares for emotionally demanding performances, giving listeners a deeper understanding of his creative process. A highlight of the conversation is his discussion of stepping into his latest role, starring as John Creasy in Netflix's new series Man on Fire, famously portrayed by Denzel Washington. Yahya explains how he honors the legacy of the performance while making the role his own—bringing a fresh perspective, new emotional layers, and a distinct physical presence that reflects his personal interpretation. He goes on to share that choosing to be interesting is more impactful than being right, which is a philosophy that he has used to separate himself from others in his craft. Grounded, thoughtful, and refreshingly honest, Yahya gives us a deeper look at the mindset, resilience, and purpose behind his rise—making this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in creativity, reinvention, and chasing purpose beyond comfort. Pivot Family, comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we enjoy hearing and learning from you- the good and the bad, we want to know! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yaya Abdul Mateen is a boot boy that grew up in the bay. For those of you who are unfamiliar,

0:05.8

that means he was born in New Orleans, but he was raised in Oakland. And these two very unique

0:10.4

cities helped shape him. The 2020 Primetime Emmy winner is also a scholar, a degree from Cal Berkeley

0:16.8

in architecture and a master's in fine arts from Yale. To say that this man is an oxymoron

0:22.5

is an understatement. His love for acting started with Ving Rhames' Guns and Butter monologue

0:28.5

from Baby Boy. He put on his performance to audition for a class. And his acting career started

0:34.2

after he lost his job with the city. Sounds like a teen to turn the song. But the

0:39.1

catalyst to all of this was the loss of his father. The Netflix series Man on Firestar shares his

0:45.7

origin, his passion, and his purpose. He talks the greatest acting advice he's ever gotten and why he

0:52.1

wants to build more than just this individual acting career.

0:56.5

And as you listen, you may get a little uncomfortable, but you'll learn he has no problem

1:01.0

making you feel that way.

1:02.6

The former hurdler didn't trip one time in this conversation and he's carried the weight

1:08.1

of his entire family on his back, something that he's working on.

1:12.0

And before he gets up, he teaches us the difference between being right or being interested.

1:17.8

And as always, thank you for tapping in and pivoting with us.

1:21.3

And now we hope you'll enjoy Yaya Abdul Mateen's biggest pivot. Hold out. Limonist.

1:28.3

I got my people feeling militant.

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I got my...

1:30.3

What's your little thing?

1:33.3

Y'all, y'all.

1:34.3

What's your little thing?

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