Hello and welcome to another episode of the Pulse podcast, the podcast where we delve into the life and death decade of the automotive industry.

You're joined as always by me, Imgen Bogle and Dan Caesar, CEO of Fully Charged Show and founder of Electric Vehicles UK. Dan, how you doing?

I'm good. We actually, Robert and I did a secret podcast without you while you're away. I think

you know that really. But we took the opportunity to talk about what had just begun. You've

been away, of course, on a well-earned break.

Have you been in Japan? Is that right?

I've been in Japan, but I was meant to be in Australia, which I think links to what you're about to say.

I was not in Australia because my flight that was going to take me via Abidabie, of course, got cancelled.

And sort of from that point, it's the world's gotten mad.

It's been a very strange few weeks, and there aren't many certainties in life,

but I think the stone cold certainty is that the cost of limbing is going to go up again,

which sounds a little bit kind of Western world-centric, selfish, I suppose,

in the light of what's going on, the tragedies that are unfolding in the Middle East.

But yet, at the point of recording, we don't know whether the conflict in the Middle East is going to stop shortly

or it's going to continue for a while, but irrespective, the world has changed.

The cost of things is definitely going to change.

So another period of huge upheaval, and Robert and I were reflecting on the fact that we've

known each other for 10 years.

And when we first met, it was around the time of the Brexit vote in 2016.

And the world has been very unpredictable ever since then.

Yeah.

And it's interesting because there are so many things that have happened at the same time

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