In a moment that stunned the world,

Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin were recently caught on a hot mic

talking about increasing longevity through repeated organ transplants.

It was kind of that moment where you're reporting on a murderer

and you know a crime has been taking place,

and then you get a video clip of the murderer bragging about how they did it and how they're

happy they did it. For the last two decades, here at the Epok Times, we've been reporting

how the Chinese Communist Party kills prisoners of conscience, including large numbers of

felon gong practitioners for their organs. On the medical side, it's also now becoming clear.

Engagement with them is actually assisting them

in human rights abuses.

Joining me today to unpack the significance of this moment

and what it teaches us about the inner workings of the CCP

is Epoch Times Senior Investigative Journalist Joshua Phillip,

host of Crossroads.

It raises the question, are we allowing them to damage the integrity of the entire global

system?

This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanya Kelly.

Joshua Philip, so good to have you back on American Thought Leaders.

Yeah, Jan, great being back.

It's been a while.

A lot happened since then too, huh?

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