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This has been quite a week looking at these cases because when men commit crimes like this,

it is about dominance, it is about control, it's about seeing these women as objects. You know we've got such an epidemic, this critical

mass of men harming women and I think these two cases really exemplify the worst of the worst.

We're back with our guest host,

criminologist Dr. Zanthi Mallet to go beyond the headlines of this

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