Wyoming’s Best Man
Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture
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🗓️ 31 July 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
Guest is Wyoming Secretary of State Chuck Gray, who discusses a recent court win against opponents of election reform, changes in the state’s election laws that have just become effective, and how the business climate has changed in the past six months.
Classic movie review of “The Best Man,” the 1964 movie about a presidential nomination fight at a political party convention.
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| 0:00.0 | Right is still right, even if you stand by yourself. |
| 0:04.0 | Mr. Chief Justice, may it place the court. |
| 0:08.0 | This is Hans von Spikovsky, and you're listening to Case in Point. |
| 0:13.0 | As all of you know, there's been a rising fervor all across the country about how we conduct our elections. |
| 0:19.0 | This really, I think, started after the 2000 |
| 0:22.1 | presidential election, which was decided for the entire nation by only 537 votes in Florida. |
| 0:29.8 | But many people still raise questions about the results of the 2020 election. And there was even |
| 0:35.0 | questions about the 2016 election raised by the losing candidate |
| 0:41.3 | Hillary Clinton. The election fraud database in which we keep track of proven cases of fraud |
| 0:47.2 | across the country, we just went over 1,600, if you can believe that, Secretary Gray. |
| 0:53.7 | The one thing that the controversies of the 2020 election did is it really made a lot of state legislators realize that there are vulnerabilities in the system. |
| 1:03.0 | And for the past five years, a lot of them have gotten very busy trying to fix those, including in Wyoming. |
| 1:17.4 | Unfortunately, when they have passed common sense reforms like voter ID, maintaining accurate voter rolls, all things that voters overwhelmingly support, they have been constantly in court by groups, |
| 1:25.6 | many financed by people like George Soros, fighting and trying to prevent |
| 1:30.1 | those from coming in. |
| 1:32.0 | Now, the chief election official and the majority of states is the elected Secretary of State. |
| 1:37.3 | There's just a handful of states that have state boards of election. |
| 1:40.4 | One of those is the Wyoming Secretary of State, Chuck Gray, who is you're the, I think, the 24th Secretary of State. You got elected in 2022. You have been really busy. Thank you. You've been really busy, including you served three terms in the state legislature, and you were the chief sponsor of the voter |
| 2:02.4 | ID bill that the state passed, became effective in 2021. |
| 2:07.0 | And by the way, I saw in your background, you're not exactly a slouch when it comes to |
| 2:12.0 | education. |
| 2:13.5 | Chuck Gray is a graduate of the Wharton School of Business, which I noticed just this year, |
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