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Hello, before we start this episode of the coronavirus newscast,

I wanted to tell you about a new episode from our sister podcast,

which is called The Next Episode.

It's all about whether people are a bit tempted to break

the guidelines around our movements during coronavirus.

Have a listen to a noop whose partner is not following the rules.

When I hear like that money's gone out and he's seen people

and I'm just looking does, there is a bit of resentfulness

because why am I having to stick to these rules?

He's probably not the only person that's out there doing it.

And so a part of me is like, well,

no one else is taking it very seriously.

And as you can tell from that clip,

The Next Episode is always full of great new music

and it's available right now on BBC Sounds.

And joining us right now is Emily Maitless.

Hello, Emily. Hello, Adam.

Now, we have invited Carrie Gracie,

the former China editor to come and talk to us in a bit,

which means I'll probably be the only person on this podcast

that doesn't speak Mandarin.

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