Hello, and welcome to Series Inquiries Only!

And today we're going to be hearing the second half of that monster episode on where

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Thank you so much, and here we go.

So now I want to track the flow of argument how Barbaro and Pal and Ola Shea have traced

it for you.

Now they are saying, well the pushback to Ola Shea's article is James Webb was the head

of NASA when this guy was fired who was gay for being gay, and he should have known

or he should have stopped it or something like that.

Now that's their summary of where this went next, like that's a new attack according

to what you've been told, and now we'll go down the road of that argument.

And what does the Kim say about that?

A Kim points out several things.

One is there's no particular reason to think that Webb would have known about this.

This was not a top employee at NASA, NASA is a very large federal agency, but even more

to the point, the head of federal agencies take directions from above.

There was an executive order signed by President Eisenhower, and there was enforced for the next

20 years, saying that openly gay Americans could not work for the federal government.

It was not a NASA policy.

It was a federal government wide policy that applied to every federal agency.

It was wrong minded.

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