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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

WTT - NAV Loans: Canary or the Gold Mine?

Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Ted Seides – Allocator and Asset Management Expert

Business, Investing

4.7841 Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

NAV loans are the latest development in private equity. Private credit managers see NAV loans as gold mines. Private equity managers are testing the waters. LPs whose capital is at risk are on the lookout for trouble. I've been thinking about NAV loans and what they might mean for private equity participants.

 

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0:00.0

NAV loans are the latest development in private equity.

0:09.6

Private credit managers see NAV loans as a gold mine.

0:13.8

Private equity managers are testing the waters, and LPs whose capital is at risk are on the lookout for trouble.

0:21.4

I've been thinking about NAV loans and what they might mean for private equity participants.

0:26.8

It led to this what Ted's thinking.

0:30.3

Nav loans, Canary, or the gold mine.

0:35.0

Finitial market participants tend to stretch at the end of a cycle in ways that look

0:39.3

silly in retrospect. In 2000, public companies with millions of clicks and minimal revenue

0:46.1

held market caps in the billions of dollars. In 2008, structured products that sliced and diced subprime mortgages professed to spin junk credit

0:56.7

straw into AAA gold. After their respective fall from grace, dot-coms became dot bombs, and the

1:05.1

only citing of precious metals attached to defaulted mortgages was on the silver screen.

1:14.0

The new new thing in private lending is NAV loans. In its most common form, a private equity sponsor takes on senior debt at the fund level,

1:21.0

using its portfolio or a subset of the portfolio as collateral, or using a credit facility backed by

1:26.9

LP commitments.

1:28.9

The portfolio loan differs from the standard practice of borrowing only at the individual

1:33.6

company level.

1:35.4

Private credit managers see Nav loans as the latest goldmine.

1:39.5

Accussed to providing leverage to individual companies, lenders can now issue 12 to 14% senior paper

1:45.8

at 10 to 20% LTV, backed by a diversified portfolio of companies. The risk of these Navloans

1:52.9

seems minimal, and the rewards are outstanding. Private equity managers look at Navloans as a solution

1:59.7

to problems created by today's difficult environment. For those struggling, Navloans as a solution to problems created by today's difficult

2:02.0

environment. For those struggling, Navloans may help generate distributions to LPs or provide

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